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kernowpisky Jun 10th 2011 11:31 pm

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 9420115)
The killers who came in from the forest: Two wild elephants invade Indian city and gore security guard to death in three-hour rampage
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1OijYaMnC


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-men.htmlThe secret world of the child bride: Heartbreaking pictures of the girls as young as FIVE who are married off to middle-aged men

If you didnt, you should have seen the pics on tv, horrific, poor cow tied to a post and pretty much defenceless, disturbing scene for sure, and what the ATM guard was doing i dont know, first he appeared outside of some building, assume ATM place, and next he was an elephant plaything.:ohmy:

kernowpisky Jun 10th 2011 11:32 pm

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http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20...ste/48905.html

Next time you visit, Goa will be a paradise with no plastic waste............:rofl:

wakey wakey....

willb Jun 11th 2011 2:53 am

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Originally Posted by kernowpisky (Post 9425673)
http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20...ste/48905.html

Next time you visit, Goa will be a paradise with no plastic waste............:rofl:

wakey wakey....

I will believe this when and if it happens, remember the Sonsoda debacle, That was also a MoU to sort out the rubbish, last i heard it's all still there, and the effluent is now running in the the nullas.

willb Jun 11th 2011 2:59 am

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Originally Posted by kernowpisky (Post 9425670)
If you didnt, you should have seen the pics on tv, horrific, poor cow tied to a post and pretty much defenceless, disturbing scene for sure, and what the ATM guard was doing i dont know, first he appeared outside of some building, assume ATM place, and next he was an elephant plaything.:ohmy:

Bloody Hell. This is awful. We were in the Bamboo Bazaar district couple of years ago. There was a wedding party at our hotel, the Elephants were all dressed up, And more or less just wandering around the guests, scary.

Bipat Jun 11th 2011 5:07 am

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Originally Posted by willb (Post 9425927)
Bloody Hell. This is awful. We were in the Bamboo Bazaar district couple of years ago. There was a wedding party at our hotel, the Elephants were all dressed up, And more or less just wandering around the guests, scary.

The elephants that rampaged in Mysore were wild elephants from the jungle.

johnny five Jun 11th 2011 6:15 am

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The elephants that take you up to the Amber Fort near Jaipur are not wild.

When we visited, it was initially indicated that there were no elephant trips as the previous day, one of these long suffering beasts had killed its mahout.

The mahoouts control their elephant with a small brass pickaxe, if the elephant does not obey every command, the pick is driven into the animal's head.

It turned out the pachyderm in question had experienced enough of this loving care and had reached up with its trunk, grabbed its tormentor around the waist and pile-driven him head first into the tarmac. The penalty for this act of course was instant execution.

To our shame, I now feel, we accepted the chance of a ride when offered, but it was our first visit to India.

Why do the arseholes venerate a bloody cow, with an intelligence level slightly below their own, and act with mindless cruelty to one of the worlds more intelligent creatures?

Inferiority complex?

oktata Jun 11th 2011 8:29 am

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Originally Posted by kernowpisky (Post 9425673)
http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20...ste/48905.html

Next time you visit, Goa will be a paradise with no plastic waste............:rofl:

wakey wakey....

actually it would be great if it does work out. may not necessarily result in 'no plastic waste'. even a reduction in plastic waste would be welcome. i have seen teenagers get together in south goa picking up plastic waste from the streets - to do their bit in cleaning up the neighborhood and also bring about awareness on how/why non biodegradable waste should be separated from normal waste.
in our gated community in benaulim we have separate bins - not everyone uses them in the way they should be used, but like the initiative described in the article, an effort is being made to solve a problem - and since this involves a (profit making) company that intends to use the waste as raw material - it may just be a success ! i wish them good luck:fingerscrossed:

Bipat Jun 11th 2011 8:45 am

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Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9426161)
The elephants that take you up to the Amber Fort near Jaipur are not wild.

When we visited, it was initially indicated that there were no elephant trips as the previous day, one of these long suffering beasts had killed its mahout.

The mahoouts control their elephant with a small brass pickaxe, if the elephant does not obey every command, the pick is driven into the animal's head.

It turned out the pachyderm in question had experienced enough of this loving care and had reached up with its trunk, grabbed its tormentor around the waist and pile-driven him head first into the tarmac. The penalty for this act of course was instant execution.

To our shame, I now feel, we accepted the chance of a ride when offered, but it was our first visit to India.

Why do the arseholes venerate a bloody cow, with an intelligence level slightly below their own, and act with mindless cruelty to one of the worlds more intelligent creatures?

Inferiority complex?

My point was that as a wedding guest you have only a small chance of being killed by one of the elephants.
Aside from this, agree with you absolutely about cruelty, apparently care has improved in Jaipur with the elephants only working at cooler parts of the day. Their feet used to get burnt.
There is cruelty to animals in all countries, we in UK are not excluded.
Am I allowed to give an advert. for the Brooke charity which helps working horses and donkeys in several countries including India. Read their history it is fascinating.

About cows: they are venerated as providing 'life' in the form of milk products, particularly for babies. Also manure etc.

oktata Jun 11th 2011 3:17 pm

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Here is another initiative Motorized 'trikes' to collect dry waste in pilot project at Divar

Heidigirl Jun 11th 2011 9:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9426338)
My point was that as a wedding guest you have only a small chance of being killed by one of the elephants.
Aside from this, agree with you absolutely about cruelty, apparently care has improved in Jaipur with the elephants only working at cooler parts of the day. Their feet used to get burnt.
There is cruelty to animals in all countries, we in UK are not excluded.
Am I allowed to give an advert. for the Brooke charity which helps working horses and donkeys in several countries including India. Read their history it is fascinating.

About cows: they are venerated as providing 'life' in the form of milk products, particularly for babies. Also manure etc.

We certainly do, but to be fair, we would have a lot more if it were not for the good work of the various organisations we have such as the RSPCA. We also have organisations to help the fight in cruelty suffered by animals abroad.

willb Jun 11th 2011 10:18 pm

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@Oktata.

Do you live/stay at Zen Gardens?

Bipat Jun 11th 2011 10:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Heidigirl (Post 9427146)
We certainly do, but to be fair, we would have a lot more if it were not for the good work of the various organisations we have such as the RSPCA. We also have organisations to help the fight in cruelty suffered by animals abroad.

India also has animal welfare organisations but the problems in such a large country are enormous. Some progress is being made for instance the rescue of dancing bears. Also becoming a vet used to be thought of as an inferior career by the middle classes, that has changed. Karwar which I know well(now a city of 70,000 people) did not have a vet until 2-3 years ago. The one who has come is very good and does not charge the poor.
The Brooke which I mentioned above started by a British woman in Egypt to rescue starving WW1 horses, uses local staff and also helps the owners also eg. in India's brick kilns. One problem in India is that 'class' difference applies to animals also, eg. the care given to pampered pedigree dogs compared with street dogs.

oktata Jun 12th 2011 3:38 am

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Originally Posted by willb (Post 9427252)
@Oktata.

Do you live/stay at Zen Gardens?

no - i have a place in micons

Heidigirl Jun 12th 2011 3:46 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9427254)
India also has animal welfare organisations but the problems in such a large country are enormous. Some progress is being made for instance the rescue of dancing bears. Also becoming a vet used to be thought of as an inferior career by the middle classes, that has changed. Karwar which I know well(now a city of 70,000 people) did not have a vet until 2-3 years ago. The one who has come is very good and does not charge the poor.
The Brooke which I mentioned above started by a British woman in Egypt to rescue starving WW1 horses, uses local staff and also helps the owners also eg. in India's brick kilns. One problem in India is that 'class' difference applies to animals also, eg. the care given to pampered pedigree dogs compared with street dogs.

My sister would love to visit mum in Goa but she cannot face the poor emaciated, flee and disease ridden, unloved animals on every road side. Truly the worst animal neglect I have ever witnessed. Perhaps I am not as well travelled as some poeple.

oktata Jun 12th 2011 3:54 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9427254)
India also has animal welfare organisations but the problems in such a large country are enormous. Some progress is being made for instance the rescue of dancing bears. Also becoming a vet used to be thought of as an inferior career by the middle classes, that has changed. Karwar which I know well(now a city of 70,000 people) did not have a vet until 2-3 years ago. The one who has come is very good and does not charge the poor.
The Brooke which I mentioned above started by a British woman in Egypt to rescue starving WW1 horses, uses local staff and also helps the owners also eg. in India's brick kilns. One problem in India is that 'class' difference applies to animals also, eg. the care given to pampered pedigree dogs compared with street dogs.

a large percentage of indias huge population is deprived of the basics many of us take for granted - humans are exploited by fellow humans to an extent creating an environment of anger and frustration which is often taken out on the poor animals - specially the ones on the streets.


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