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Just watching Question Time on TV, first question on asylum seekers. Seems to be agreement that Border Agency not coping.

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Tragedy at the Queen's Salute: Horse has to be put down in front of shocked crowd after being run over by a gun carriage in Hyde Park

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Foul-mouthed, racist and sexist: Primary school headteacher is banned from teaching for LIFE Disgraced Simon Parker 'bullied and intimidated' terrified staff and 'belittled' children at Coppice Primary School, Chigwell, Essex, in 2008 and 2009. A General Teaching Council disciplinary inquiry heard Parker called parents 'Muslim f******' and labelled a supply teacher a 'black bitch'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hing-life.html


Family who owned TEN houses worth £1m tricked taxpayers out of £100 a week for SEVEN YEARS
Mother-of-one Anuysa Parmar, 51, admitted falsely claiming £36,938 and avoided jail after Leeds Crown Court heard she was the only family member able to be sentenced.

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Its been well looted back in benefits.

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Indian, Pakistanis, Eastern Europeans, Somalis etc etc etc, does it really matter, all a sponge on our society, throw them out.

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5 year x visas coming back, Goans really do like us not just our money, the property many bought in good faith will now legally belong to them, no more corruption, benefits for all, Positive enough.
And taxis will have meters!!!!.

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I've no problem at all Bipat? So it's a problem I express my views now?

It seems to me that every time anyone expresses their annoyance at the amount of migrants coming into the UK for free housing, medical care and benefits - and this Bipat does NOT mean those migrants coming to work and live in the UK - you pounce. It's very upsetting to feel you can't have opinions about your own country.

This is my final post on this Bipat. I'm not getting into anything personal.

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Just remember Heidigirl, its one persons opinion against the rest, the majority of us know what we see, rose coloured glasses cant hide the truth, the Uk is an immigrants delight, always has been always will be, its too far gone to change it now, immigrants should have been brought in ONLY on work visas, no work OUT, commit a crime OUT.

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If only all this was true.

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NONI KEEP THE FAITH!!!!:thumbsup:

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We ruled India at the time (well 55% of it, the rest was still nominally under Princely rule) and you can't really loot yourself. We ruled by right of conquest and treaty - the basis by which most/all countries in the world were ruled historically.

AndyD 8-)#

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So that's OK then, we could take what we wanted. I don't suppose it made the Indians affected feel any better about it though. The salt restriction for one thing. That was our right?? and it went on until 1947 so not in the depths of history.

It's all ended now though so we needn't get into an argument over it.

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They have had it back in benefits time and time again, so alls fair in love and war.

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The government could - don't they all?The majority of Indians knew nothing aboiut the British Raj, just as they know little about the current Raj -they just live under the persecution of their local 'rulers' / caste superiors, same as always The salt thing was a legal anomaly that was spotted by Mohandas Gandhi - the lawyer. It was an excellent propaganda point but almost certainly hadn't ever been enforced before he challenged the authorities on it. He also never actually made salt at the place and time that is commemorated.AndyD 8-)#

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Andy what you have described is completely different from what I have learned from OH, late father in law and G. father inlaw who all actually lived through these times, and that in the South away from all the happenings around Delhi. (They actually owned some salt pans, and some of these are still in the family).
Yes in the small villages then as now local heirarchy existed and still do, but those living in towns and I am including small towns were well aware of the Raj. There was less resistance in the South and in fact father-in- Law a life-time Anglophile and against independence, was briefly imprisoned during the independence time for his own safety, an embarrassment for his schoolgoing chldren, but a source of 'romance' for his UK grandchildren when they heard about it. The last local collector was popular and stayed on (had a large butterfly collection). I think you underestimate the people to say they 'knew nothing about the Raj'.
F-in L visited us in UK once in 80s and was deeply diappointed at what he saw as bad behaviour by young people (probably expected Victorian values). M-in-Law, less expectations enjoyed herself , but had to be forgiven for her instant liking for Des O'Connors singing voice!!

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Andy used the term "the vast majority"

In terms of India then and now, this is a correct statement.

Your immediate (informed and educated ) family, are in Indian terms, a tiny and completely insignificant minority. This is how current Injun governments maintain control.

Therefore in terms of this discussion, totally irrelevant