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Here is the (almost) laughable factor about the Goans who hold the viewpoint of near hatred near hatred of those British living and buying property in Goa, and those Goans who refer to those who have been decent hardworking folk as 'dole scroungers' or similar :

Many of their Goan country folk move to the UK in droves - and thousand of them are given benefits, housing allowance, free schooling for their kids etc etc etc, oh and unemployment/disability allowance...... more etc.s !!!!! Also thousands of Goans and Indians own properties (sometimes whole portfolios of properties) in the UK, which pushes the UK house prices up. Do we send racist letters to our local paper ? Of course not, we would be prosecuted for inciting racial hatred !!

.....Oh and I bet some of those receiving these lucrative benefits in the UK and/or buying houses in the Uk are relatives of the authors of those vile racist letters printed in the Herald.

Strange how these letter writers seem to forget those aspects !!!

Dread - balancing act !
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The backlash begins against the world landgrab

As is by now well-known, sovereign wealth funds from the Mid-East, as well as state-entities from China, the Pacific Rim, and even India are trying to lock up chunks of the world's future food supply. Western agribusiness is trying to beat them to it.

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Have I read the 'letter' of the 7th September and the 'opinion' today correctly? As I really do not understand.
The letter 'Cry My Beloved Goa' inaccurately describes British, Russian and Israeli expats as pushing up house prices. This is described as racist.
The 'opinion' today by Ian Watson also has some dubious reasoning. It is critical of immigrants to UK in general and Goans in particular and as causing a rise of house prices in UK. This letter is praised!!
Or have I misunderstood the subsequent posts? Are both opinions racist or neither opinion racist??

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Bipat

I have not read Ian Watson's opinion, but I will explain my own post above :

I do not resent any person coming to the UK and never have. I only wish that every person in the UK would live by the law and make contribution to society in a positive way, and in that I include British folk! (unlikely as that is but one can wish !!). My post merely points out that the originators of letters printed in the Herald which display such hatred towards expats, and seemingly blame them for all the ills of Goa, need to see that there are two sides to the coin, and realise that although there are Brit expats in Goa, there are also Goan expats in the UK, and that those Goans here are not subjected to racist ideals printed in newspapers. I also point out that they are treated much better by the UK govt than the expats are treated by the Indian govt. If my earlier post was unclear please accept my apologies.

There are times I get a bit pee'd off by reading some of the bigottted garbage that the Herald gives column to. Personally I abhor any form of racism, whether it be here or Goa or anywhere else, and would love to give the authors of those type of letters an education in diversity, and allay them of the facts of how their own country folk are welcomed by other nations.

Dread - clarity?
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Felix Mascarenhas said...
TO ALL READERS/COMMENTATORS OF HERALD: I have some of my good strong friends working for Herald. I just enquired today what had happened. They told me that the Politicians and the Goa Police forced them to shut down the comments section. Anyway we have Niz Goenkar whom they cannot shut. Only thing is that on this forum we must not use badwords and vulgar language.
31 August, 2010

diogofichardo said...
Many anti Niz- Goans called the Portuguese dictators, But today Goa is run by worse dictators , who have cut the freedom of speech. Through these corrupt politicians the destruction of Goa is imminent. These outside developers have pressurised our Goan into shutting the Herald Blogg. It just Goes to show there is no greater power, than the "power of unity". God Bless Goa And GOANS.
31 August, 2010

http://nizgoenkar.blogspot.com/2010/...saulim-by.html

Taken from the above - perhaps this answers your question Dread.

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And of course no mention of the real culprits in property purchase.....Delhi and Bombay speculators, ONLY FOREIGNERS. Racist!

Many years ago, in the UK,I told a Kenyan friend there was no racism in the UK. He exploded,what the f*** would you know of it. He of course was right, in all societies you'll always have individuals who are racist. The problem arises when it becomes government policy.Like Goa. Like Churchill stating he would auction the properties of deported foreigners. Like Narvekar (?) ( The cricketgate scammer ) trying to introduce an amendment to some parliamentary bill to prevent foreigners buying property.His amendment was thrown out, so the Goan government refusing to register legally purchased property is illegal. It's discrimination, and because it applies only to foreigners, it's racial.

Indians should be the last people to talk of discrimination...AKA Casteism.

Wally.

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I agree, discrimination on grounds of race, gender, caste and sex are rife in India. I have said in the past that India may well be the most racist country in the world. Look at how the Goans feel about the sellers on the beach. Pure racism!

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My point was regarding the posts on this thread. Your post Wally apparently praising a published 'opinion' of an expat far more objectionable than the original 'letter' described as racist. I personally would just describe both 'opinion/letters' as being totally misinformed rather than racist.

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Ive never met a bunch as Racist as Goans, they look dowh there noses at outside Indians, do they really like us?????????????, money yes.:thumbdown:

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Letter today in Daily Telegraph: www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/letters
The one entitled "Immigration keeps us fit" by Dr Kailash Chand.

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Can not find this letter. can you copy it into here?

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Sorry I don't know how to do this, lack of computer skill!! If you type in the above link, the first letter of the list comes up. (Gov's promise on referendums etc.) If you click on this letter the whole list of today's letters comes up, then you can scroll down to the one I mentioned.

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This is it:
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Immigration keeps us fit

SIR – The NHS has been sustained throughout its life by Asian doctors and Caribbean nurses and is now hugely assisted by doctors either born abroad or whose parents were born overseas. The NHS was based on, and is now run on, diversity. We know that 30 per cent of NHS professionals were born overseas. Without them the NHS would come to a standstill.

Britain is not a particularly high-migration country (Comment, August 13), with fewer immigrants than France and Germany, and fewer than five per cent of the workforce foreign born – against eight per cent in Germany and 15 per cent in America.

Rather than exploiting the emotions of marginalised people for votes, mainstream politicians need to work harder to build strong communities and strong education systems, and to rebuild trust and confidence in democratic politics so the vulnerable do not feel disconnected. Communities need to be encouraged to develop a more realistic understanding of immigration and asylum matters.

What is required is neither fortress Britain, nor open-door Britain. Instead, what we need is to tighten the immigration system as necessary and to deal with abuses, so that public support for a controlled and selective migration that benefits Britain is maintained.

Dr Kailash Chand
Chairman, Tameside and Glossop NHS
Stalybridge, Cheshire

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Goa flood relief scam threatens Congress.

[B]http://sify.com/news/goa-flood-relie...ofObifheh.html


The tailor who made millions

http://epaper.mailtoday.in/showstory...finedundefined

An Immigration Story Gone Sour
13 Sep: Mail Today. Former Goa minister Mickey Pacheco’s alleged ties to a global human trafficking syndicate could lead to the exposure of a well-oiled racket worth crores that is built upon stories of misplaced hope


thanks to goanvoice.org.uk

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LOL! :eek::eek::eek:
As someone here said before, I really hope he will sing and expose some of his collegues in Goan government before he goes down for good.