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johnny five Aug 30th 2010 9:55 am

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Originally Posted by wheatsheaf (Post 8814472)
"nothing to be alarmed about". Sure. Wait for it. Here it comes. Smack.

Brilliant Wheatsheaf. One of the best "short" posts I've ever read.......


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iain492001 Aug 30th 2010 3:33 pm

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Have just come back from the beach - just opposite the River Princess - couldn't see much evidence of any oil washed ashore or tarballs. It was just as filthy as it was when I had a walk (in the sunshine:thumbsup:) Sunday afternoon.

What is interesting are the relatively new holes in her shore-facing side (starboard or port - I never know which is which) - you can see right through the larger hole and out the massive hole on the seafacing side......will Mother Nature take its toll, cause the ship to collapse in on itself and save the Goa Govt 125 Crore Rupees? The continuing delaying tactics thrown up each day would seem to indicate this.

R.I.P. Candolim/Sinquerim beaches.

Cheers Iain

noni Sep 2nd 2010 9:07 am

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India's visa policy is affecting British businesses and universities
2 Sep: The Guardian (UK), By Robert Wintemute. ... No international human rights tribunal would uphold India's visa rule... India is effectively saying to British universities and employers: "You are welcome to come to India, but leave your British students and staff of Pakistani origin at home." ... India is now applying ethnic criteria. When will the Foreign Office protest publicly?

thanks to www.goanvoice.org.uk

Just wish the Foreign Office would help us.

MapsaMapsa Sep 2nd 2010 9:40 am

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Originally Posted by iain492001 (Post 8815051)
Have just come back from the beach - just opposite the River Princess - couldn't see much evidence of any oil washed ashore or tarballs. It was just as filthy as it was when I had a walk (in the sunshine:thumbsup:) Sunday afternoon.

What is interesting are the relatively new holes in her shore-facing side (starboard or port - I never know which is which) - you can see right through the larger hole and out the massive hole on the seafacing side......will Mother Nature take its toll, cause the ship to collapse in on itself and save the Goa Govt 125 Crore Rupees? The continuing delaying tactics thrown up each day would seem to indicate this.

R.I.P. Candolim/Sinquerim beaches.

Cheers Iain

The India Govt. policy of granting preferential (lifetime) visas to British citizens of Indian origin is also discriminatory as is the concession to purchase purchase in India. Both need to be challenged in the European Court of Human Rights.

Wonder if the BHC could use it as a threat!

wheatsheaf Sep 2nd 2010 9:53 am

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 8822025)
India's visa policy is affecting British businesses and universities
2 Sep: The Guardian (UK), By Robert Wintemute. ... No international human rights tribunal would uphold India's visa rule... India is effectively saying to British universities and employers: "You are welcome to come to India, but leave your British students and staff of Pakistani origin at home." ... India is now applying ethnic criteria. When will the Foreign Office protest publicly?

thanks to www.goanvoice.org.uk

Just wish the Foreign Office would help us.

what a laugh. After decades of them complaining across the globe; now they are in the spotlight!!!. Wonder what Vaz has to say?. But India has the upper hand with its economy and trade. Doubt much will be done to rectify the situation.

Bipat Sep 2nd 2010 10:24 am

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Originally Posted by MapsaMapsa (Post 8822073)
The India Govt. policy of granting preferential (lifetime) visas to British citizens of Indian origin is also discriminatory as is the concession to purchase purchase in India. Both need to be challenged in the European Court of Human Rights.

Wonder if the BHC could use it as a threat!

Which Article of the European Convention on Human Rights would you use to make your challenge ?? There is no Human Right to enter a foreign country or buy property in a foreign country . The Article concerned with discrimination is concerned with discrimination as to the Articles of the Convention.

MapsaMapsa Sep 2nd 2010 10:52 am

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The same law that requires all citizens to be treated equally, by India, for example, without regard to race, religion or ethnic origin.

Bipat Sep 2nd 2010 11:25 am

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[QUOTE=MapsaMapsa;8822222]The same law that requires all citizens to be treated equally, by India, for example, without regard to race, religion or ethnic origin.[/QUOTE

You are mixing nationality with race. A country has jurisdiction over its own borders. India can decide on its own visa rules just as UK can decide on its own immigration rules. (The cap on non-Europeans). Whether you like the rules or consider them fair is a different matter.

MapsaMapsa Sep 2nd 2010 12:08 pm

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I suggest you read the Guardian article at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...akistani-orgin

slowly ...

Bipat Sep 2nd 2010 7:17 pm

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Originally Posted by MapsaMapsa (Post 8822342)
I suggest you read the Guardian article at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...akistani-orgin

slowly ...

I have read the article (I read quickly), it concerns visas issued to those of Pakistani origin. Indo-Pakistan relationship is complex, it has to be remembered that the two countries were on the brink of war as late as 2001-2002 and India has since suffered terrorist attacks.
My question to you was how would you (as you suggested) take India to the European Court of Human Rights over its decision to give concessions to its own expatriots and their descendants (and that only if they comply with very strict documentation rules)???

Bipat Sep 2nd 2010 8:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 8822859)
I have read the article (I read quickly), it concerns visas issued to those of Pakistani origin. Indo-Pakistan relationship is complex, it has to be remembered that the two countries were on the brink of war as late as 2001-2002 and India has since suffered terrorist attacks.
My question to you was how would you (as you suggested) take India to the European Court of Human Rights over its decision to give concessions to its own expatriots and their descendants (and that only if they comply with very strict documentation rules)???

Just done a bit more (fast reading) and learnt something new, UK has an 'Ancestry Visa' for people of UK descent but only if they are citizens of a Commonwealth country, not if they live in USA for instance. How discriminatory is that !!

MapsaMapsa Sep 2nd 2010 8:52 pm

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Hi Bipat,

This is getting more than a little tiresome. Do you know anything about the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights? Try the Wikipedia article and google - you should have no problem catching up with the times since you read so fast:D

Anyway, do you accept that India is discriminating in the EC [and elsewhere] on the basis of ethnicity?

Bipat Sep 2nd 2010 9:19 pm

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Originally Posted by MapsaMapsa (Post 8822982)
Hi Bipat,

This is getting more than a little tiresome. Do you know anything about the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights? Try the Wikipedia article and google - you should have no problem catching up with the times since you read so fast:D

Anyway, do you accept that India is discriminating in the EC [and elsewhere] on the basis of ethnicity?

Yes I agree this is tiresome, and yes I do know a good deal about the European Court of Human Rights, I am not sure relying on Wikipedia for your info is enough. What about reading the Convention itself !!
I accept that India discriminates against those of Pakistani origin for the reasons I mentioned. (This was the whole point of the newspaper article).
Many countries including UK have different rules of entry for different nationalities. (I have ample experience of Indian relatives coming for a 2 week holiday to the UK and the hassle they have). Perhaps we can now leave the subject. I certainly will.

msj5 Sep 3rd 2010 2:02 am

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Check out the following. Picked it up from an ad in OHeraldO.
www.nizgoenkar.blogspot.com
Makes for some quite interesting reading!!!

noni Sep 3rd 2010 6:59 am

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Tar balls, robberies mar Goa’s beach parties
3 Sep: IANS. The run-up to Goa’s tourism season, beginning next month, could not have got off to a worse start. With slimy tar balls over the last few days, several robberies have created fear psychosis among tourists...

www.goanvoice.org.uk


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