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Old Mar 6th 2009, 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by Umpatan
Then how do the ethnic minorities maintain their cultural heritage throughout the generations? Can you imagine a Chinese born in Canada not writing those complicated chinese characters? There must be a mode for them to maintain their distinct ethnic identity. The Sikhs need to keep their temples to provide free meals so even I, can go there to eat as a Caucasian non believer. We don't need them becoming bananas.
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader
So you agree that Canada and the US are similar and that North America is divided into regions that cross the border but that all culture stops because of this border. So you are saying that someone born in Maine has culture but someone born 10 miles away in New Brunswick does not? Even though they play the same sports and eat the same food and listen to the same music and have the same accent and wear the same clothes. What about Vancouver and Seattle?
Yes, Canada derives some culture from the US. What it does not have is a culture other than that it derives from the US. Recent immigrants or the children of immigrants who retain close ties to the culture their parents brought have a culture in Canada but it's not of Canada, it's that of where they came from. The idea that people arriving in Canada should somehow assimilate to Canadian culture is strange as, other than playing lots of ice hockey, there's no way to display that one has assimilated.
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Old Mar 6th 2009, 4:16 am
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader
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That is right. Examples of peoples long in Canada who live according to their imported culture are Hutterites, Mennonites and polygamist Mormon sects. Sikhs are just a more recent example of people who have moved to the frozen Terre Nullis and carried on living pretty much as they did elsewhere.
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Annual leave or lack thereof!
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That is right. Examples of peoples long in Canada who live according to their imported culture are Hutterites, Mennonites and polygamist Mormon sects. Sikhs are just a more recent example of people who have moved to the frozen Terre Nullis and carried on living pretty much as they did elsewhere.
lol, you are certainly living in Ontario. No China towns in the US? No Spanish influence in the US? No Muslims in the Uk? Curry was invented in England?
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Old Mar 6th 2009, 5:41 am
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Yes, Canada derives some culture from the US. What it does not have is a culture other than that it derives from the US. Recent immigrants or the children of immigrants who retain close ties to the culture their parents brought have a culture in Canada but it's not of Canada, it's that of where they came from. The idea that people arriving in Canada should somehow assimilate to Canadian culture is strange as, other than playing lots of ice hockey, there's no way to display that one has assimilated.
I suppose you are just having fun with me. Of course Canada derives much culture from the US, why wouldn't it? The west in general gets some culture from the US, though not as much as Canada. Are Norway and Sweden fundamentally different? Oz and New Zealand? Paraguay and Uruguay? Ireland and Northern Ireland? Most 2nd or 3rd generation people seem to assimilate. Cultures with pre arranged marriages or deep rooted religious beliefs may take longer. The people arriving now however need to realize that they are living in a different place to the one they left. They can't push their religious beliefs or language on the existing population whether it be Canada or elsewhere. Not being able to tell a Canadian from a Chinese or Sri Lankan is a bit absurd. Not be able to tell a Canadian from an American, sure, but immigrants having no culture to adapt to? that is just a silly thing to say.
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader
I suppose you are just having fun with me. Of course Canada derives much culture from the US, why wouldn't it? The west in general gets some culture from the US, though not as much as Canada. Are Norway and Sweden fundamentally different? Oz and New Zealand? Paraguay and Uruguay? Ireland and Northern Ireland? Most 2nd or 3rd generation people seem to assimilate. Cultures with pre arranged marriages or deep rooted religious beliefs may take longer. The people arriving now however need to realize that they are living in a different place to the one they left. They can't push their religious beliefs or language on the existing population whether it be Canada or elsewhere. Not being able to tell a Canadian from a Chinese or Sri Lankan is a bit absurd. Not be able to tell a Canadian from an American, sure, but immigrants having no culture to adapt to? that is just a silly thing to say.
You know that the Chinese and the rest of the Orientals choose NOT to be part of this country socially and culturally by CHOOSING to segregate amongst themselves. You will see the MEN only dating other Asians.

The plan of attack: Marry off their women so the men get starved off sexually enough that they will now have to learn to date our women. They have their luxury cars, education, etc., all the qualities that will bring them our women. They have to not be so racist. When Asian men can't get laid, they will wake up.
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immigrants having no culture to adapt to? that is just a silly thing to say.
What then are the defining features of Canadian culture?
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader
lol, you are certainly living in Ontario. No China towns in the US? No Spanish influence in the US? No Muslims in the Uk? Curry was invented in England?
Of course pockets of immigrant culture exist in many countries. However few people would say that the immigrant culture dominates in, for example, the UK. Some specifically British features of life continue; the monarchy, a parliamentary democracy, the BBC, Coronation Street, the Booker prize, Tracey Emin, lively newspapers, the Premier League, a ska revival every score years. There's a political lobby specifically concerned that the country not be overwhelmed by immigrants.

Canada is different in that, without the immigrants, life here is just a poor immitation of an episode of the Dukes of Hazzard. It's been the policy of Canadian governments for a generation that immigrants are welcome because they civilize the country.

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The people arriving now however need to realize that they are living in a different place to the one they left. They can't push their religious beliefs or language on the existing population whether it be Canada or elsewhere.
I believe this contradicts the concept of modern Canada. If you really think that then you'd be better in the US. Canada is about multi-culturalism; the idea that, although people live here, their loyalty is to somewhere else. It's not that immigrants seek to convert the existing population to their way of life, rather that, although immigrants live and work here, we hold our noses in doing so. We wish to live as much as possible as if at home. This is what the Canadian government asks of us.

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Old Mar 6th 2009, 12:07 pm
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Of course pockets of immigrant culture exist in many countries. However few people would say that the immigrant culture dominates in, for example, the UK. Some specifically British features of life continue; the monarchy, a parliamentary democracy, the BBC, Coronation Street, the Booker prize, Tracey Emin, lively newspapers, the Premier League, a ska revival every score years. There's a political lobby specifically concerned that the country not be overwhelmed by immigrants.

Canada is different in that, without the immigrants, life here is just a poor immitation of an episode of the Dukes of Hazzard. It's been the policy of Canadian governments for a generation that immigrants are welcome because they civilize the country.



I believe this contradicts the concept of modern Canada. If you really think that then you'd be better in the US. Canada is about multi-culturalism; the idea that, although people live here, their loyalty is to somewhere else. It's not that immigrants seek to convert the existing population to their way of life, rather that, although immigrants live and work here, we hold our noses in doing so. We wish to live as much as possible as if at home. This is what the Canadian government asks of us.
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Insurance costs, all insurance is expensive, and you need a fair bit of it.

Humour Greating Cards... or lack there of, don't get me wrong Hallmark have a section, but they seem to have lost something..... oh yes, that's it, THE HUMOUR!!!

Molson... and other rubbish "beers".

I know it's been said.... but Mobile (cell) phones with rediculas priced plans.

Having to take a driving test in B.C.... when frankly your driving the only car that doesn't look like it's just come out of a destruction derby.

The inability to spell words like Tyre.... english is english people!!!
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Old Mar 6th 2009, 5:37 pm
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The inability to spell words like Tyre.... english is english people!!!
You're in Canada now it's TIRE it's not misspelled it's just different get used to it.
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You're in Canada now it's TIRE it's not misspelled it's just different get used to it.
Saying erbs instead of herbs is the only thing I find that really grates. I just want to shake them until they say it properly :curse:
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Saying erbs instead of herbs is the only thing I find that really grates. I just want to shake them until they say it properly :curse:
Once again it's not mispronounced it's just different.

Why are these types of things so hard for some people to accept?
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Once again it's not mispronounced it's just different.

Why are these types of things so hard for some people to accept?
Did you have an irony bypass this morning or something?
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