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Old May 5th 2010 | 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by fledermaus
Nothing was clear in your comment to me.
Well dear, I'm thinking that you are beyond help, you and el richo.
 
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Go on admit it, you don't have a degree do you?
Yes I dooooooooooooooooooo
 
Old May 5th 2010 | 5:17 am
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Originally Posted by fledermaus
ok I've had enough of this claptrap and am tired of feeding the troll's overinflated 'university educated and therefore better than you are' ego.


Anyone who thinks that having a degree automatically makes you better than someone who doesn't is either arrogant, a fool, or both.
Go and wee wee


You just aren't getting it.
 
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Originally Posted by kate 17
The central problem of your life Oakville is that you are an engineer.Engineers usually have no time for the arts....I'm married to an engineer and it's a dive into the garage for him if I start talking poetry and such.


You can read my comment to the fledermouse for clarification.

I think sport is a low life preoccupation, but I'll watch the world cup anyway!

Outdoor pursuits if they are in contemplation of nature are ok.
How dare you presume to lecture me on the central problem of my life? Your own husband's inability to appreciate you "talking poetry and such" is, once again, a commentary on your own situation rather than anyone else's.

As I said in an earlier post, "I shall remember that next time I'm in the opera house, symphony hall, theatre, gallery, museum....." - or singing in a choral concert, or playing in an orchestra, or reading literature or poetry, or any other of the pursuits I'm obviously not equipped to enjoy.

As to your comment to Fledermaus - if your understanding of a university education is that you rely on the rich knowledge of your professors rather than reading around the subject for yourself, then - with appropriate apologies to Novocastrian - you're missing the better part of the educational experience. The difference between being a school pupil and a university student appears to have passed you by. If you don't take in any more than your professors teach you, how do you challenge their perspectives? How do you engage in serious intellectual debate? QED, I suspect.
 
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Originally Posted by kate 17
Well dear, I'm thinking that you are beyond help, you and el richo.
Why?

Because i have clearly shown you contradicting your own beliefs and that i questioned why you have gone from a debate on a generic university education to a defined university education?

How very dare you!

I understand that you're out of your depth here, and that's perfectly ok. It's ok to be incorrect and to be mediocre.
 
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He can be somewhat oblique but what I can untangle from his comment is, being an engineer doesn’t necessarily preclude an understanding of the finer points of human culture. Although on further reading of his post, it does beg the question how in-depth and sophisticated can you be about certain subjects by simply reading the odd anthology in an rather ad hoc manner.
I know he doesn't understand finer points otherwise he would understand what I'm saying.


Well I'm taking a break for tea....and another stab at the multi quote mystery.

Sorry pedants, if someone could spell it out it might help.
 
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Originally Posted by kate 17
I'm married to an engineer and it's a dive into the garage for him if I start talking...
I can't say I blame him. But that's probably because I'm a Pisces.

(apologies to mods for doing a butch - but it was quite hard to resist)
 
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You are all way too serious for my liking.

I think I should post somewhere else I don't fit in, I'll never fit in!


I'm not intelligent enough apparently


Tea time.....and a kleenex
 
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Originally Posted by kate 17
You are all way too serious for my liking.

I think I should post somewhere else I don't fit in, I'll never fit in!


I'm not intelligent enough apparently


Tea time.....and a kleenex
I know i'm not taking this seriously and i have a sneaky feeling that you're one of the minority who are

That said, it's nice to see you accepting your mediocrity

As for the kleenex, do you not highlight this as a pre-requisite over the shipping report?


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Originally Posted by fledermaus
ok I've had enough of this claptrap and am tired of feeding the troll's overinflated 'university educated and therefore better than you are' ego.


Anyone who thinks that having a degree automatically makes you better than someone who doesn't is either arrogant, a fool, or both.
In Kate's defense, I don't think anyone is suggesting you can't be a good person without formal education, it just means you're a bit thick. My Nan was a wonderful lady, never stole anything, never swore, made a wonderful roast dinner, but her understanding of Wittgenstein's private language argument was rudimentary at best.
 
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Originally Posted by kate 17
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I am losing the plot and haven't had the time to go back and think about it.

I'm saying that to understand Homer you probably need a bit of help...where better than a university.
Ah, so you're a classicist, then? You'll no doubt be familiar with the inscription over the entrance to Plato's Academy, whence derives much of Western philosophy and thus the intellectual capacity to appreciate the high arts.

Ἀγεωμέτρητο� �‚ μηδεὶς εἰσίτω
Roughly: Let nobody who doesn't understand geometry enter this place.

See - they understood even in ancient Greece that a rounded education includes both the liberal arts and the natural sciences - so much so that it wasn't until after the Enlightenment that a distinction between the two branches of knowledge was made.

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Old May 5th 2010 | 5:34 am
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Originally Posted by kate 17
You are all way too serious for my liking.

I think I should post somewhere else I don't fit in, I'll never fit in!


I'm not intelligent enough apparently


Tea time.....and a kleenex
Oh good heavens, no! My dear, if we were taking this, or you, seriously we'd have put you on "ignore" pages and pages ago.

El Richo's advice holds true: if you stop trying to be something you're not we shall probably get along famously, but where would be the fun in that?
 
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Originally Posted by Oakvillian
Ah, so you're a classicist, then? You'll no doubt be familiar with the inscription over the entrance to Plato's Academy, whence derives much of Western philosophy and thus the intellectual capacity to appreciate the high arts.

Ἀγεωμέτρητο� �‚ μηδεὶς εἰσίτω
Roughly: Let nobody who doesn't understand geometry enter this place.

See - they understood even in ancient Greece that a rounded education includes both the liberal arts and the natural sciences - so much so that it wasn't until after the Enlightenment that a distinction between the two branches of knowledge was made.
But wasn't it fundamental to Plato's epistemology that ordinary people simply watched shadows on the wall and only philosophers/educated people could see the light and thus understand the truth?
 
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But wasn't it fundamental to Plato's epistemology that ordinary people simply watched shadows on the wall and only philosophers/educated people could see the light and thus understand the truth?
Shhh! You'll undermine my point if you start posting truthiness like that

You're right, of course. But Plato was a proto-communist, and was thus discredited after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Can I put the goalposts over there now?
 


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