post 31, quote.....I'm not moving to Canada because of the bears. Which by the way kill loads more people every year than spiders, snakes and sharks put together in Aus.

you really should be careful constantly changing your position on here. perhaps its time to go back to the barbie, cook some shrimp, talk about anal sex, rugby and abusing the wife.

In the last 50 years, 61 Human deaths in Australia due to shark attacks, 30 in Canada due to bear attacks. One of the big differences is that when a shark attacks it can be in crowded tourist areas, whereas bear attacks are out in remote wilderness areas. Polar bear attacks , unless you are an arctic explorer doubt you would see a polar bear other than in a zoo or on TV.

As about 75% of the Canadian population live 100 miles of the US border, this is going to largely be a non issue for most people moving to Canada. I doubt anyone considering Australia would be put off by shark attacks either. There is probably more chance of getting run over crossing the street than either incident occurring to most of us. I guess if you are concerned about bears, go to Australia, if Sharks concern you go to Canada and if concerned about both, stay put!

when the cops were recruiting heavily in aus, and our friends, and lots of thir immediate family went we considered it. it would have been a lot easier in many regards. we would have had 2 close friends, older relatives for child minding, basically a support mechanism on arrival that has taken years to build up here. the wildlife was a major factor, not the only factor, heat and distance the other two, but the wildlife was right up there.
it is not a biggy for everyone i accept that. i can also accept that depending on where and how you live it can have little to no impact at all. but for us, how and where we wanted to live, just too much.

So, it appears that Aus and Canada are identical. And the choice of which to emigrate to entire depends on your choice of animal related death.

finally, can't believe it took us sooooo long to get there.

That's what I call balance.

exactly, death in the mountains, death in the seas, you take your choice....

Well, I know this is how I decided.

I agree with your last paragraph - I get irritated when people on here use sharks or spiders as reason not to move to Australia. According to the Shark Research Institute of Australia there have been 11 fatal attacks in Australia in the past 50 years. There have been 16 fatal bear attacks in Canada in the last 20, and over 30 in the same time period that 11 people died by shark attack down under.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1111116004654

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._North_America

well at least now you are supporting your argument. the trouble with stats is no sooner do you find some to support your argument, someone else finds some to disprove it, as the above from aviator.

the real issue, is not what kills, bites, maims, stings, or otherwise, its whether these things will have an impact on your daily life or not. there is the argument if you go to aus, a big part of the appeal is the beach life. i would not have thought anyone would/could argue this. just as if you come to canada, in particular anywhere near the rockies, you come, in part, for the mountain life. i certainly would not argue that.

so you contend with the bears in the mountains, and the sharks in the sea.
the big difference is, thats where it ends in canada. bears in mountains. sharks in the sea is where it just starts in aus. you then have snakes and spiders, living actually WITH you, not just something to contend with at a particular place and time, such as weekend at the beach. they are with you 24/7 and you have to LIVE with them, literally, in your house.
now i know my porridge has been dwindling recently but i'm certain i do not have a bear infestation.

you're mental!!!!!!! keep it up

The reality is I have ejected two spiders out my house in a year and not seen a snake in that time period. The spiders were so savage I threw them out with an upturned margarine tub. As for sharks - I swim every night in the ocean if I can and totally without fear. The depth of the water is too shallow for great whites, which have been spotted further out where it's deeper. The dolphins come in much closer and that really is great fun.

None of these things impede my life in any way, and neither would bears if I lived in Canada - which was my original point - how annoying it is when people in the UK say they won't move to Aus because of the sharks, etc - they don't say the same thing about bears and Canada yet statistically you're going to be bear food on your hike before your shark food on your swim.

hereandthereandeverywhere apparently, my contribution is based on the fact I've noticed on more than a few occasions that whenever these annoying threads come along, there is always someone who gets very whipped up about the Misunderstood Fauna of Australia, and how sweet the sharks and black widows are compared to the slathering man-eaters of Canada. Reading it it's pretty funny.

And come on. It's not like you were having a deep intellectual discussion. You were basically just ripping stats off the internetz to support your rather weak argument, so I remain amused.

Statistically more people have been killed by bears in Canada than by sharks in Australia. This is my argument. How is it weak?

But at the end of the day......................who really cares?