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Old Oct 21st 2011 | 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
Life isnt a game.
So you agree with my post then

This is a bit like Bullseye. Do they go with what they know is there for the taking, or do they gamble in which they could lose everything or get a speedboat?

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Old Oct 21st 2011 | 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
I don't have an opinion on whether or not the OP should stay in Canada or go back to the UK.

It is just that if someone says that in their opinion winters in Winnipeg are quite balmy it is reasonable to point out that the stats suggest that it is brass monkeys.
I confess to skim reading the entire thread and missed that you were replying to dollface rather than making a general point about the greatness of Canada's education system. So apologies.

Originally Posted by iaink
No, not after only ten days. Hes clearly still finding his feet if hes paying $800 for a gym and $200 to a dentist, and $9 for cerial. Hell, Id hate it too if that was how I was being fleeced, but that doesnt sound representative of canadian living to me.
I guess I think that life's to short to mess about doing things you hate. What's the point of that?

And I think you can know after 10 days - or at least have a good indication. I'm 100% with el_richo on this: if the OP hates it and it's currently easy for them to go back then they should go back. Don't wait 6 months to find you still hate it, but going back is much more difficult. No shame at all in doing that, as hating something is not the same as failing at something.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by el_richo
This is a bit like Bullseye. Do they go with what they know is there for the taking, or do they gamble in which they could lose everything or get a speedboat?
Eloquently put. Its their call, all we can do is try to make it an informed decision.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
I guess I think that life's to short to mess about doing things you hate. What's the point of that?

And I think you can know after 10 days - or at least have a good indication. I'm 100% with el_richo on this: if the OP hates it and it's currently easy for them to go back then they should go back. Don't wait 6 months to find you still hate it, but going back is much more difficult. No shame at all in doing that, as hating something is not the same as failing at something.
Having thought it was worth doing the paperwork and putting their life on hold waiting for PR, I suspect that they must have had some reason to think it worth doing in the first place, dont you? In which case its worth investing a bit of time here to see how it pans out after the initial stresses and confusions.


I cant speak for anyone else, but my first weeks here were a blur, I had little idea at all what I was doing or how things worked. But Im glad I stuck it out. Granted, having a job was the key, so maybe the OP should just focus on that.

Some idiot here keeps posting that a happily employed immigrant is a happy immigrant, and an unhappilly employed immigrant is an unhappy immigrant.

Cracking the labour market is the first step, then you can make an informed decision where to live and start to have a more normal social life too. Thats not going to happen in ten days for most people.
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
Having thought it was worth doing the paperwork and putting their life on hold waiting for PR, I suspect that they must have had some reason to think it worth doing in the first place, dont you? In which case its worth investing a bit of time here to see how it pans out after the initial stresses and confusions.


I cant speak for anyone else, but my first weeks here were a blur, I had little idea at all what I was doing or how things worked. But Im glad I stuck it out. Granted, having a job was the key, so maybe the OP should just focus on that.

Some idiot here keeps posting that a happily employed immigrant is a happy immigrant, and an unhappilly employed immigrant is an unhappy immigrant.

Cracking the labour market is the first step, then you can make an informed decision where to live and start to have a more normal social life too. Thats not going to happen in ten days for most people.
You may be right and that all they need is jobs and they will see things differently when they have an income. It's not the impression I got from the first post though.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
Having thought it was worth doing the paperwork and putting their life on hold waiting for PR, I suspect that they must have had some reason to think it worth doing in the first place, dont you? In which case its worth investing a bit of time here to see how it pans out after the initial stresses and confusions.


I cant speak for anyone else, but my first weeks here were a blur, I had little idea at all what I was doing or how things worked. But Im glad I stuck it out. Granted, having a job was the key, so maybe the OP should just focus on that.

Some idiot here keeps posting that a happily employed immigrant is a happy immigrant, and an unhappilly employed immigrant is an unhappy immigrant.

Cracking the labour market is the first step, then you can make an informed decision where to live and start to have a more normal social life too. Thats not going to happen in ten days for most people.
I definitely agree with the highlighted section.

I do believe some people emigrate for the wrong reasons and/or had misaligned dreams. Who knows if this is the OP.

Ultimately, information can only go so far (and other than locations, most things will be subjective information). The OP's risk aversion is the key.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by el_richo
I definitely agree with the highlighted section.
That some idiot keeps posting it, or that immigrants need a decent job to be happy...
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by el_richo
So you agree with my post then

This is a bit like Bullseye. Do they go with what they know is there for the taking, or do they gamble in which they could lose everything or get a speedboat?
The speedboat was never won, they only brought it out when people lost. The winning prize was always a trip to Butlins, was it not?
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
The speedboat was never won, they only brought it out when people lost. The winning prize was always a trip to Butlins, was it not?
I suppose Butlins would be more practical after they go home to their two up two down terrace in Birmingham.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by el_richo
I suppose Butlins would be more practical after they go home to their two up two down terrace in Birmingham.
Wasn't the consolation prize Bully the Bender?
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
Wasn't the consolation prize Bully the Bender?
Dusty Bin's cousin?

My two happeth on this whole happy/miserable argument: people seem to take their state of mind with them from country to country (I've lived in 4 so I have some perspective on this) and no amount of planning (or indeed lack of planning) for a move make much difference to that. I'm in Canada more or less by random chance but, as I've said before, I really like it here and can't see myself moving anywhere else. The OP is here after much planning and is likely to go back. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
 
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Kanata looks spaced out to me, I'd live there...

http://homes.point2.com/CA/Ontario/O...al-Estate.aspx
 
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Kanata looks spaced out to me, I'd live there...

http://homes.point2.com/CA/Ontario/O...al-Estate.aspx
I thought the budget was $600,000.
 
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
The speedboat was never won, they only brought it out when people lost. The winning prize was always a trip to Butlins, was it not?
I'm sure I saw somebody win it once. Not that it matters, speedboats are a liability - you'd want to sell the thing immediately and then use the money for beer and (if you really fancied a go on a boat) rentals.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
I'm sure I saw somebody win it once. Not that it matters, speedboats are a liability - you'd want to sell the thing immediately and then use the money for beer and (if you really fancied a go on a boat) rentals.
Noting the contestants on Bullseye I would have thought pigeons, whippets and brown ale would have been the order of the day.
 


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