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Old Oct 21st 2011 | 7:15 am
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Looks like this thread is drifting a bit.

I am not sure it has anything much to do with house prices anyway.
That is just one of a list of things that the OP didn't know about before they arrived and which have come as a disappointment to them.

Going from what appears to have happened on this forum in the past, usually when people have a long list of issues like that, especially things that either
a)they could have quite easily found out about before they arrived
or
b) that could be overcome with a combination of time, effort and determination
or
c) things that are inconsequential and easy to solve, such as the price of one brand of cereal,

there are other reasons under the surface which are harder to put into words.

To have done little or no research, to not have sorted out a job or even researched salaries or standard of living (which the OP states as important in her post), apparently not to have done any recce trips, to have waited until the last gasp of the PR validity and then to rush over unprepared.......

To me, that speaks of at the very least a certain reluctance to engage with the process and almost setting it up to not work out.

I suspect the OP knows what they want to do about this already, as many of us do when we post on here asking for advice.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by helcat12
Looks like this thread is drifting a bit.

I am not sure it has anything much to do with house prices anyway.
That is just one of a list of things that the OP didn't know about before they arrived and which have come as a disappointment to them.

Going from what appears to have happened on this forum in the past, usually when people have a long list of issues like that, especially things that either
a)they could have quite easily found out about before they arrived
or
b) that could be overcome with a combination of time, effort and determination
or
c) things that are inconsequential and easy to solve, such as the price of one brand of cereal,

there are other reasons under the surface which are harder to put into words.

To have done little or no research, to not have sorted out a job or even researched salaries or standard of living (which the OP states as important in her post), apparently not to have done any recce trips, to have waited until the last gasp of the PR validity and then to rush over unprepared.......

To me, that speaks of at the very least a certain reluctance to engage with the process and almost setting it up to not work out.

I suspect the OP knows what they want to do about this already, as many of us do when we post on here asking for advice.

It's Friday afternoon, its pissing it down and I suspect most on here are distressingly sober at this moment so I can't see many threads staying on topic.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by Oink
It's Friday afternoon, its pissing it down and I suspect most on here are distressingly sober at this moment so I can't see many threads staying on topic.
All the clichés have been done already. Adding more or saying them in different ways would just be boring.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 7:52 am
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Its just a dilema probably a lot of people face and some have gone back some have stayed. As you say its only a decision I can make - I just dont want to make the wrong one (again) and part of me feels its better to make the decision now rather than later.

Do you just know its not going to be right for you in an area and then try moving somewhere else then somewhere else over and over? or do you just realise that what you had back in the UK was pretty darn good (see my previous posts) and the fact that after such a short amount of time you can go back and slot back in comfortably without even knowing you have been away?

I will go back to the UK settle in, never complain, realise my husband is right!! (dont tell him I said that) and just get back to what I know. Yes I didnt research the area quite enough and yes I was wearing rose tinted spectactles though I blame the process for taking so long. When I first applied I wasnt married, didnt want to be settled, didnt care about finances, didnt want children etc etc. My family have put a lot of pressure on me to move here saying how wonderful it is and how awful the UK is etc etc.

Anyways I appreciate all your feedback but when you know you know and I need to do whats right for myself and my husband. Wish us luck lol
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by RRhodes
Its just a dilema probably a lot of people face and some have gone back some have stayed. As you say its only a decision I can make - I just dont want to make the wrong one (again) and part of me feels its better to make the decision now rather than later.

Do you just know its not going to be right for you in an area and then try moving somewhere else then somewhere else over and over? or do you just realise that what you had back in the UK was pretty darn good (see my previous posts) and the fact that after such a short amount of time you can go back and slot back in comfortably without even knowing you have been away?

I will go back to the UK settle in, never complain, realise my husband is right!! (dont tell him I said that) and just get back to what I know. Yes I didnt research the area quite enough and yes I was wearing rose tinted spectactles though I blame the process for taking so long. When I first applied I wasnt married, didnt want to be settled, didnt care about finances, didnt want children etc etc. My family have put a lot of pressure on me to move here saying how wonderful it is and how awful the UK is etc etc.

Anyways I appreciate all your feedback but when you know you know and I need to do whats right for myself and my husband. Wish us luck lol
I do wish you the best of luck.

It takes a lot to apply and go through the emigration process, especially when it is so long and circumstances change so much while it is going through that what you were/had when it began can bear no relation to the situation when it finally ends.
But you have invested so much time and money in it all that it can seem almost impossible to turn round and say that it was a mistake.
Lots of people on this forum have done that, though and soul-searched for a long time over it.
I am sure that some of them would say now that should have just trusted their feelings and gone back at the start.

Don't listen to other people, even family, who tell you that the UK/Canada is great/rubbish.
They are living their own life, not yours.

If you do go back to the UK and all this has done is make you content with where you were in the first place then that is a good enough reason to have done it.
You can turn to your family and say that you tried it and Canada isn't right for you but the UK is and that's all that matters. They can ask no more of you than you made the effort.

I hope everything works out for you.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by RRhodes
Its just a dilema probably a lot of people face and some have gone back some have stayed. As you say its only a decision I can make - I just dont want to make the wrong one (again) and part of me feels its better to make the decision now rather than later.

Do you just know its not going to be right for you in an area and then try moving somewhere else then somewhere else over and over? or do you just realise that what you had back in the UK was pretty darn good (see my previous posts) and the fact that after such a short amount of time you can go back and slot back in comfortably without even knowing you have been away?

I will go back to the UK settle in, never complain, realise my husband is right!! (dont tell him I said that) and just get back to what I know. Yes I didnt research the area quite enough and yes I was wearing rose tinted spectactles though I blame the process for taking so long. When I first applied I wasnt married, didnt want to be settled, didnt care about finances, didnt want children etc etc. My family have put a lot of pressure on me to move here saying how wonderful it is and how awful the UK is etc etc.

Anyways I appreciate all your feedback but when you know you know and I need to do whats right for myself and my husband. Wish us luck lol
Good luck

Hopefully this'll be a wake-up call for many on here who have tunnel vision.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by montpro
Kanata looks spaced out to me, I'd live there...

http://homes.point2.com/CA/Ontario/O...al-Estate.aspx
That home is about a 20 minute drive north of Highway 417 and probably 40 minutes in non rush hour driving to downtown.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 8:38 am
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thanks helcat12 you summed it up really. All that matters is my own happiness. Therefore today I have booked flights to go back on Monday, put in an offer on a house in the UK, my husband has accepted his old job back and life should soon be back to what we know of happiness! Everyone has their own oppinions and it hasnt been easy for us over the last 12 months. I will just be glad when its all over!
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by el_richo
Good luck

Hopefully this'll be a wake-up call for many on here who have tunnel vision.
It isn't indecisive to change your mind but it isn't tunnel vision to stick to your guns.
There is something to be said for being committed to a course of action and seeing it through.

I met two blokes at the IELTS who had both applied for Immigration to Canada before through FSW Cat 1 and both had let it lapse.
One of them had let it lapse TWICE and was on his third go.
There is nothing to recommend acting with this sort of flighty mentality.

However, that is not to be confused with changing your mind for a good reason as a result of further information or experience.

I think it is important to keep reassessing your situation as you go along in this process, especially as it takes a while.
Don't feel you have to stick with it if it isn't right, but don't let some difficulties or bad feelings put you off if you still feel it is right for you.

It is hard to know when to be tenacious and work through issues and when to take the loss and call it a day.
Once you get to a certain age, I think everyone can identify a time when they made the wrong call so we've all made mistakes.

This process is hard and all sorts of emotions come into play, both bad ones and good ones.
It isn't easy to know when those are going to be feelings that will pass or things that will stay and get stronger.

Perhaps we should have some syndromes to make it sound sciencey;

Pre Permanent Residency Tension PPRT

and Post Permanent Residency Depression PPRD

Having only been here 3 weeks myself, I am expecting to be even more emotionally unstable than usual for a while. (Lord help my husband.)

I hope the OP and anyone else who feels the same makes the right choice and that everything turns out well.
If not, they can always come back again.

It's been done
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by RRhodes
thanks helcat12 you summed it up really. All that matters is my own happiness. Therefore today I have booked flights to go back on Monday, put in an offer on a house in the UK, my husband has accepted his old job back and life should soon be back to what we know of happiness! Everyone has their own oppinions and it hasnt been easy for us over the last 12 months. I will just be glad when its all over!
WOW, now that is decisive!

All the best to you and your husband will be very happy to know that he was right all along.

Don't let it go to his head, though
Best of luck
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by helcat12
It isn't indecisive to change your mind but it isn't tunnel vision to stick to your guns.
There is something to be said for being committed to a course of action and seeing it through.

I met two blokes at the IELTS who had both applied for Immigration to Canada before through FSW Cat 1 and both had let it lapse.
One of them had let it lapse TWICE and was on his third go.
There is nothing to recommend acting with this sort of flighty mentality.

However, that is not to be confused with changing your mind for a good reason as a result of further information or experience.

I think it is important to keep reassessing your situation as you go along in this process, especially as it takes a while.
Don't feel you have to stick with it if it isn't right, but don't let some difficulties or bad feelings put you off if you still feel it is right for you.

It is hard to know when to be tenacious and work through issues and when to take the loss and call it a day.
Once you get to a certain age, I think everyone can identify a time when they made the wrong call so we've all made mistakes.

This process is hard and all sorts of emotions come into play, both bad ones and good ones.
It isn't easy to know when those are going to be feelings that will pass or things that will stay and get stronger.

Perhaps we should have some syndromes to make it sound sciencey;

Pre Permanent Residency Tension PPRT

and Post Permanent Residency Depression PPRD

Having only been here 3 weeks myself, I am expecting to be even more emotionally unstable than usual for a while. (Lord help my husband.)

I hope the OP and anyone else who feels the same makes the right choice and that everything turns out well.
If not, they can always come back again.

It's been done
I think you misunderstood me.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by RRhodes
thanks helcat12 you summed it up really. All that matters is my own happiness. Therefore today I have booked flights to go back on Monday, put in an offer on a house in the UK, my husband has accepted his old job back and life should soon be back to what we know of happiness! Everyone has their own oppinions and it hasnt been easy for us over the last 12 months. I will just be glad when its all over!
WOW that was quick! lol
Where did you live in the UK?
Good luck and I hope you are happy

I wish we would've gone back after a year here, but we stuck it out and 4 years later we are stuck here until my eldest finishes school in 2 years time.

Oh well, alot can happen in 2 years
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by el_richo
I think you misunderstood me.
Sorry if I did so
 
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Originally Posted by helcat12
I am expecting to be even more emotionally unstable than usual for a while.
Thanks for the warning.
 
Old Oct 21st 2011 | 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
Thanks for the warning.

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