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GARRYP1302 Aug 21st 2011 2:13 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 9572812)
I'm not naming the person who fired abuse at me, it was (as usual) off the public forum and not someone involved with this thread, but having read several posts on here - including yours - accusing the mods of telling people not to move to Aus, it is natural and logical to think that the mods in question are those who are not happy here and who frequently say so..........at present only one of the mods on the Aus forum falls fair and square into that category - me. I can't imagine any of the others saying anything like that, they are all more positive than me about the attributes of Australia.

That post of mine which you quoted above was a direct response to the OP of the thread who asked who moderates the moderators. Unusually for me it was a helpful reply - if anyone has a problem with the Mods contact Sue. :)

A silly question, but if you are not happy in Australia why are you still there, you made a statement earlier that you fly to the UK on a regular basis, so you must have ties here in the UK, I hate the way the UK is heading, life here is not like it used to be, even 5 years ago, it is why I decided I want to get out, why stay in a place what makes you unhappy

HelenTD Aug 21st 2011 3:06 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572862)
A silly question, but if you are not happy in Australia why are you still there, you made a statement earlier that you fly to the UK on a regular basis, so you must have ties here in the UK, I hate the way the UK is heading, life here is not like it used to be, even 5 years ago, it is why I decided I want to get out, why stay in a place what makes you unhappy

People living in Australia can say the same thing: life here is not like it used to be and many do not like the way Australia is going. Some people might not be happy here, but wouldn't be happy in the UK either, so they might consider that Australia (or the UK) is the lesser of two evils. Others can't leave kids, grandkids or OH to move to the country they'd rather be in. Some can't earn a living at their preferred occupation in their first choice of country. Some happy to live in Australia, some in the UK. Every possibility exists.

It might seem that those of us lucky enough to have obtained PR are trying to stop others doing the same, but I think that a lot of the stuff you read on here is an injection of reality to treat some amazing misconceptions about life in 'The Lucky Country'.

Garry, perhaps it's time that you moved over so that you can finally see for yourself, instead of seeing things through the eyes of those already here.

Pollyana Aug 21st 2011 8:41 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572862)
A silly question, but if you are not happy in Australia why are you still there, you made a statement earlier that you fly to the UK on a regular basis, so you must have ties here in the UK, I hate the way the UK is heading, life here is not like it used to be, even 5 years ago, it is why I decided I want to get out, why stay in a place what makes you unhappy

I have a job here, I don't have one back home. If I go home I have no job, and because I work with storms and cyclones its not an area which translates easily to the UK. Also I have no property to sell and no money behind me to give me a cushion to get started from back home. Nearly got made redundant a few months back - if that had come off I would've gone home cos I'd have had the cash to do it, but it didn't, so I'm still here.

unfair dinkum Aug 21st 2011 10:04 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572327)
Many people come on this site to basically get some advice, a few pointers in the right direction but quite often all you get is negative vibes from most people, there are some that give some good advice but not many. on many points I agree with what the OP has stated. According to some of the moderators moving to Australia is a big mistake and is just full of doom and gloom.
Lets get something straight anyone looking at Australia through tinted glasses are fools, every country has its problems to various levels.
Being English, I am patriotic, but quality of life in the UK has slipped down very sharply in the last twenty years, Anyone going for a quiet pint in ANY town in UK has to watch their back, the prisons are so full knife crimes and rape are classed as petty crimes now, might get a year or 2, anything else a slapped wrist if we are lucky, a lot of towns have no go areas after certain times even for the police, the thought of having public barbecues anywhere let alone in big cities like Brisbane and Perth is only a dream, within a day or 2 they would be wrecked or used as drug dens in the UK.
Lets talk about immigration, I know when I arrive in Australia, if I do not work I will not get paid, I will not get free health care, I will not be entitled to pensions or any benefits until I have worked for at least 2 years, if I do not fit the bill at the airport I will be put on the next flight, unlike here in the UK as soon as they step of the plane they are giving free house, benefits the lot, if they have children back in their own country they are entitled to more benefits,and because of Blairs idea to open the doors to everyone, the country is now crippled, the once proud NHS is slowly dying, the retirement age has now been increased because they can not afford to pay the pensions. We have faceless unelected EEC bureaucrats ruling us.
The op mentioned about nothing being exported being British made, many of the typically British companys , Rolls Royce, British steel, Cadburys are not British owned, I want to leave the UK not because I hate the country, but because of how it is being run, the country has had it.

the only bit i agree with is the NHS

Rambi Aug 21st 2011 10:08 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 9572688)
But surely you know that Australian A&E departments on the weekend nights are full of people who fell of ladders or hit their thumb with a hammer?

And the chainsaw accidents :blink:

Rambi Aug 21st 2011 10:11 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by RossCountyLoyal (Post 9572777)
mmmm....I think that the title of this thread says it all

I usually aim for levity (even if it annoys some folks) so the title is a little inaccurate. :thumbup:

Rambi Aug 21st 2011 10:22 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 
I'd just like to say that Polly is one of the best mods I've ever seen on a board. It doesn't matter that she's not sold on Aus. She doesn't have to be. :thumbup:

unfair dinkum Aug 21st 2011 11:00 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572589)
Please read what I wrote, some moderators give good advice Helen in particular, and a few others, but there are also some that maybe not using those exact words do give the impression anyone moving to Australia are making a big mistake, As for the rest of my post being delusional when was the last time you was in the UK, I work as a contractor and have to live and work in different parts of the UK so I get a good clear picture of the country, Next time you are in UK, try going to the A&E dept at any hospital on a Friday or Saturday night, or try getting hold of a copper on any of these 2 nights for what ever reason.

Bix maybe you are right, little things like please and thank you do seem to be a thing of the past here in the UK, may be small things but they make a big impression, on one or two of my threads that I started maybe I did not say thankyou, my apologises if it is true

yeah I know its terrible, nothing like Australia!

aston Aug 21st 2011 11:04 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by unfair dinkum (Post 9573490)
yeah I know its terrible, nothing like Australia!

thanks mate,they didnt itch half as much in the u.k;):ohmy:

northernbird Aug 21st 2011 11:54 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572589)
Please read what I wrote, some moderators give good advice Helen in particular, and a few others, but there are also some that maybe not using those exact words do give the impression anyone moving to Australia are making a big mistake, As for the rest of my post being delusional when was the last time you was in the UK, I work as a contractor and have to live and work in different parts of the UK so I get a good clear picture of the country, Next time you are in UK, try going to the A&E dept at any hospital on a Friday or Saturday night, or try getting hold of a copper on any of these 2 nights for what ever reason.

Bix maybe you are right, little things like please and thank you do seem to be a thing of the past here in the UK, may be small things but they make a big impression, on one or two of my threads that I started maybe I did not say thankyou, my apologises if it is true

You really are quite silly aren't you.

Take a look at some of these.

Several injured during night of violence in Perth
Man glassed in Clarkson
Train violence
Heathridge Robbery
Violent robbers
Man stabbed in Yokine

Ailing WA hospitals lag nation

As I said in my last post to you, I love Perth more than most on this board and it is my home but if you are coming here with some kind of delusional notion that it doesn't suffer the same issues as parts of the UK then you are going to be in for a huge shock.

Jerseygirl Aug 21st 2011 11:58 am

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 9573542)
You really are quite silly aren't you.

Take a look at some of these.

Several injured during night of violence in Perth
Man glassed in Clarkson
Train violence
Heathridge Robbery
Violent robbers
Man stabbed in Yokine

Ailing WA hospitals lag nation

As I said in my last post to you, I love Perth more than most on this board and it is my home but if you are coming here with some kind of delusional notion that it doesn't suffer the same issues as parts of the UK then you are going to be in for a huge shock.

Same sh*t...different bucket. :D

aston Aug 21st 2011 12:01 pm

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 9573546)
Same sh*t...different bucket. :D

i personally would say its a different kind of shit here,purely down to the rental market!!!

moneypenny20 Aug 21st 2011 12:27 pm

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572798)
Who's pointed the abuse at you or even criticised you, I thought this was suppose to be a discussion forum, A person just stated that the UK was a mess, and that much of the advice he got was negative things about Australia, I just happen to agree with him, a lot of people come on here to get advise or to be pointed in the right direction, not to listen to someone else's problems or to be called names because they may have a difference of opinion, you got one moderator on here earlier that stated that she was looking for an argument, what a great attitude.

So you feel it's fine to knock people for passing on facts that you don't like but we're not allowed to find what you say or rather the way you say it insulting? I made a light hearted comment to someone which ended in a :D and you decide that as a Mod I'm supposed to have a 'better attitude' than 'normal' posters? :confused: How does that work then? I am a 'normal' poster who happened to be in a slightly bad mood last night and who didn't need to read that posting facts was unhelpful. The fact that I am also a Mod is in this case irrelevant. We, as Mods, are not special, not superior to anyone else, we're simply posters who Sue has asked to help and support the Discussion Boards. We are still entitled to our opinions.

aston Aug 21st 2011 12:45 pm

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9573573)
So you feel it's fine to knock people for passing on facts that you don't like but we're not allowed to find what you say or rather the way you say it insulting? I made a light hearted comment to someone which ended in a :D and you decide that as a Mod I'm supposed to have a 'better attitude' than 'normal' posters? :confused: How does that work then? I am a 'normal' poster who happened to be in a slightly bad mood last night and who didn't need to read that posting facts was unhelpful. The fact that I am also a Mod is in this case irrelevant. We, as Mods, are not special, not superior to anyone else, we're simply posters who Sue has asked to help and support the Discussion Boards. We are still entitled to our opinions.

aint you lot got sod all better to do?;)

chris955 Aug 21st 2011 12:58 pm

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?
 
I'm just starting to realise how lucky I was on my recent trip to the UK :ohmy: I drank in 6 or 7 different pubs while there and obviously through pure luck I wasn't stabbed or raped, not even once. I found people in shops to be generally happy and friendly and had people thank me when I held a door. How lucky was I that I didn't go to that other UK some talk about :eek:
I would really hate to live in that UK that's for sure, it sounds like hell.


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