Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 9572334)

Complete rubbish

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9572336)

The use of a public BBQ as a 'drug den' is intriguing one ... I can see how they can be superficially likened to spoons but I would question whether there would be sufficient heat there, it's worth a crack (ha!) though.

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572327)

Many people come on this site to basically get some advice, a few pointers in the right direction but quite often all you get is negative vibes from most people, there are some that give some good advice but not many. on many points I agree with what the OP has stated. According to some of the moderators moving to Australia is a big mistake and is just full of doom and gloom.
Lets get something straight anyone looking at Australia through tinted glasses are fools, every country has its problems to various levels.
Being English, I am patriotic, but quality of life in the UK has slipped down very sharply in the last twenty years, Anyone going for a quiet pint in ANY town in UK has to watch their back, the prisons are so full knife crimes and rape are classed as petty crimes now, might get a year or 2, anything else a slapped wrist if we are lucky, a lot of towns have no go areas after certain times even for the police, the thought of having public barbecues anywhere let alone in big cities like Brisbane and Perth is only a dream, within a day or 2 they would be wrecked or used as drug dens in the UK.
Lets talk about immigration, I know when I arrive in Australia, if I do not work I will not get paid, I will not get free health care, I will not be entitled to pensions or any benefits until I have worked for at least 2 years, if I do not fit the bill at the airport I will be put on the next flight, unlike here in the UK as soon as they step of the plane they are giving free house, benefits the lot, if they have children back in their own country they are entitled to more benefits,and because of Blairs idea to open the doors to everyone, the country is now crippled, the once proud NHS is slowly dying, the retirement age has now been increased because they can not afford to pay the pensions. We have faceless unelected EEC bureaucrats ruling us.
The op mentioned about nothing being exported being British made, many of the typically British companys , Rolls Royce, British steel, Cadburys are not British owned, I want to leave the UK not because I hate the country, but because of how it is being run, the country has had it.

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 9572340)

Make sure no little toerag has crapped on it first though:lol:

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9572347)

Indeed, future migrants should also be aware of the national prevalance for bored teens to embed razor blades in the slides. :sneaky:

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572327)

Many people come on this site to basically get some advice, a few pointers in the right direction but quite often all you get is negative vibes from most people, there are some that give some good advice but not many. on many points I agree with what the OP has stated. According to some of the moderators moving to Australia is a big mistake and is just full of doom and gloom.
Lets get something straight anyone looking at Australia through tinted glasses are fools, every country has its problems to various levels.
Being English, I am patriotic, but quality of life in the UK has slipped down very sharply in the last twenty years, Anyone going for a quiet pint in ANY town in UK has to watch their back, the prisons are so full knife crimes and rape are classed as petty crimes now, might get a year or 2, anything else a slapped wrist if we are lucky, a lot of towns have no go areas after certain times even for the police, the thought of having public barbecues anywhere let alone in big cities like Brisbane and Perth is only a dream, within a day or 2 they would be wrecked or used as drug dens in the UK.
Lets talk about immigration, I know when I arrive in Australia, if I do not work I will not get paid, I will not get free health care, I will not be entitled to pensions or any benefits until I have worked for at least 2 years, if I do not fit the bill at the airport I will be put on the next flight, unlike here in the UK as soon as they step of the plane they are giving free house, benefits the lot, if they have children back in their own country they are entitled to more benefits,and because of Blairs idea to open the doors to everyone, the country is now crippled, the once proud NHS is slowly dying, the retirement age has now been increased because they can not afford to pay the pensions. We have faceless unelected EEC bureaucrats ruling us.
The op mentioned about nothing being exported being British made, many of the typically British companys , Rolls Royce, British steel, Cadburys are not British owned, I want to leave the UK not because I hate the country, but because of how it is being run, the country has had it.

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 9572348)

Right....that's the last time I'm using the slides in the park:ohmy:

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 9572350)

Jesus, worraload of sh*te! :rofl:

Actually, you will get free healthcare when you step off the plane. You will also be entitled to thousands of other dollars of tax payers' money - whether you've bothered to lift a finger or not. So I don't know how you 'knew' you wouldn't get any of these things. I guess you don't 'know' much about how things really work in Australia.

I actually saw a public barbeque in a park in Dundee yesterday (yeah I was surprised too!) and judging by the rust on it it had been there for a looooong time, not vandalised though.

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9572354)

That wasn't a BBQ, that was community housing.

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572327)

Many people come on this site to basically get some advice, a few pointers in the right direction but quite often all you get is negative vibes from most people, there are some that give some good advice but not many. on many points I agree with what the OP has stated. According to some of the moderators moving to Australia is a big mistake and is just full of doom and gloom.
Lets get something straight anyone looking at Australia through tinted glasses are fools, every country has its problems to various levels.
Being English, I am patriotic, but quality of life in the UK has slipped down very sharply in the last twenty years, Anyone going for a quiet pint in ANY town in UK has to watch their back, the prisons are so full knife crimes and rape are classed as petty crimes now, might get a year or 2, anything else a slapped wrist if we are lucky, a lot of towns have no go areas after certain times even for the police, the thought of having public barbecues anywhere let alone in big cities like Brisbane and Perth is only a dream, within a day or 2 they would be wrecked or used as drug dens in the UK.
Lets talk about immigration, I know when I arrive in Australia, if I do not work I will not get paid, I will not get free health care, I will not be entitled to pensions or any benefits until I have worked for at least 2 years, if I do not fit the bill at the airport I will be put on the next flight, unlike here in the UK as soon as they step of the plane they are giving free house, benefits the lot, if they have children back in their own country they are entitled to more benefits,and because of Blairs idea to open the doors to everyone, the country is now crippled, the once proud NHS is slowly dying, the retirement age has now been increased because they can not afford to pay the pensions. We have faceless unelected EEC bureaucrats ruling us.
The op mentioned about nothing being exported being British made, many of the typically British companys , Rolls Royce, British steel, Cadburys are not British owned, I want to leave the UK not because I hate the country, but because of how it is being run, the country has had it.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9572364)

The second point, could you please show me where even one mod has said that, let alone some.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9572364)

I'm not going to bother arguing with most of your comments because they're complete nonsense. However I do take exception to the two sentences I've highlighted. First off, the point about little help is really fricking rude and totally untrue. Many many people go to a great deal of trouble to help, support and advise others, to say there is little help, totally negates the bloody hard work those people put in.:frown: The second point, could you please show me where even one mod has said that, let alone some.

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9572327)

I will not get free health care

Originally Posted by rinkerdink (Post 9572390)

For me sonlymewater is by a country mile the best poster on here moderator or otherwise, speaks perfect sense, sensibly and without prejudice, perhaps we can can all learn from his approach!

Vim, as a Lewisham boy rainham is a relative paradise and if the Oz adventure doesn't work out id consider returning here. Don't know Hoo well but I'll take your word for it. All about opinions and all relative which is why I take the knowing comments from those down under with a pinch of salt when they talk about crime and cost of living etc. I read
, listen and use my personal crap filter to take what I think is useful and move on. Why oh why people take these forums so seriously and personally is beyond me.

Peace and kumbaya

Originally Posted by rinkerdink (Post 9572390)

For me sonlymewater is by a country mile the best poster on here moderator or otherwise, speaks perfect sense, sensibly and without prejudice, perhaps we can can all learn from his approach!