Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 9577067)

That might work for some occupations, especially those which involve mainly male workers and/or strong unions. Doesn't work in categories dominated by women, such as childcare workers and aged care workers, who usually earn less than cleaners:blink:. For some migrants, the Australian wage for their job might seem like a small fortune, but would be a low income in Australia. Sometimes there is not a suitable body of knowledge in Australia to do the training.

Originally Posted by Bix (Post 9577085)

But actually I don't think those lower paid jobs are on any list for visa purposes anyway.

The jobs might be taken by migrants but usually by partners of the main visa holder.

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 9577050)

It is a matter of good timing, but this can be as hard to decide as trying to align all the planets:unsure:. For some people, they might never quite get to the point where they have a huge wad of cash to migrate with, due to conditions in their home country. Sometimes, though, you can miss the boat with migrating and your occupation disappears from the SOL, or your visa expires. There's all sorts of stories on BE about surviving setbacks in the migration process.

There are no guarantees for a lot of migrants. Some know that they can waltz into secure and well-paid jobs, others are trying for months to get jobs that pay below average wages. It's very considerate of you to save the Australian taxpayers some money, but most of them wouldn't know you from a bar of soap if you miss your opportunity and never get again:unsure:. As Alistair says, you will find work and you'll be contributing to the pot of money Canberra likes to spend. You might just need a helping hand at the start or occasionally here and there.

It's worth trying to get a job lined up before you get here, but that has proved very difficult for many migrants. Sometmes jobs just pop up at short notice and they need someone already here. Planning and logistics are not necessarily strong points in some organisations;). Good on you trying, though.

Originally Posted by Bix (Post 9577037)

I would question the leadership of a government that would import migrants knowing they cannot support themselves.

If the job is that important you either pay higher wages to attract the immigrant or to pay for training so it can be fulfilled from within.

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9576839)

people like you amaze me, You emigrate to another country for a better life,

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 9577747)

That is bollocks

there are many reason why people emigrate....some for work, some for family, some to marry etc.....not everyone is trying to 'escape'.....you are very naive.

Originally Posted by engineer wayne (Post 9577860)

I wonder why are people on here when they are already down under

Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9577800)

I have read some of your post, you really do have a problem with Australia, if you think it is that bad , commitments or not get out, if not you will have a breakdown at this rate

Originally Posted by engineer wayne (Post 9577860)

Jan4kids is spot on people still have an issue on here, I wonder why are people on here when they are already down under, enjoy it you have a lovely country down under to explore and the amazing wild life, not to mention the sun, even though the sun is not the be an end all. England is amazing place on earth and one of the best places I would say to live, Im emmigrating purely for the fact that Ive got to give it ago and try it for myself, not to mention a better place to raise my 2 boys with regards to standing around street corners when there older in england, Im an outdoor person and england for 8 months a year doesnt do it for me, we all feel better in the sun, dont care what anyone says, so alls I wanna say is get out and enjoy your life its to short, if you dont like Oz get back home to your home turf.:rofl:

Originally Posted by engineer wayne (Post 9577860)

I wonder why are people on here when they are already down under, enjoy it you have a lovely country down under to explore and the amazing wild life, not to mention the sun, even though the sun is not the be an end all.

Originally Posted by engineer wayne (Post 9577860)

Jan4kids is spot on people still have an issue on here, I wonder why are people on here when they are already down under, enjoy it you have a lovely country down under to explore and the amazing wild life, not to mention the sun, even though the sun is not the be an end all. England is amazing place on earth and one of the best places I would say to live, Im emmigrating purely for the fact that Ive got to give it ago and try it for myself, not to mention a better place to raise my 2 boys with regards to standing around street corners when there older in england, Im an outdoor person and england for 8 months a year doesnt do it for me, we all feel better in the sun, dont care what anyone says, so alls I wanna say is get out and enjoy your life its to short, if you dont like Oz get back home to your home turf.:rofl:

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 9577747)

That is bollocks

there are many reason why people emigrate....some for work, some for family, some to marry etc.....not everyone is trying to 'escape'.....you are very naive.

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 9577747)

That is bollocks

there are many reason why people emigrate....some for work, some for family, some to marry etc.....not everyone is trying to 'escape'.....you are very naive.

Originally Posted by Bix (Post 9578096)

Naive post of the year.

Unfortunately people have to work during the day and strangely enough the sun doesn't stay out in the evenings. For example where I am it's dark between 6-7pm all year round.

Darkness is not condusive to "exploring" so how does one entertain oneself in the dark evenings? Well it tends to be the same stuff as in the UK. In the main people read, watch TV, or spend time on some type of games console or computer.

Gawd help us some people even chat to people they know and also to strangers on BE in preference to those other things. No big deal but without that there would be just some factually based reference tool. There are lots of those sites out there so why don't people use them? Because they are not interactive like this one and that is a massive difference.