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16 babies......NO WAY......but....I agree, there lies a business opportunity, but who's gonna change all the nappies
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HI FA, hope Beth and her family are all ok.
Do you also sometimes have the feeling that if you stare hard and long enough at your phone it will ring and give you good news...
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Thanks hun - I'm going to go out and try and forget about it....
Morning M,
I just saw Beth was posting on the Tassie thread a few minutes ago - hopefully she'll pop over here in a minute.![Thumbs Up](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
I know what you mean about the phone. I'm always looking at mine to see if I have not heard it ring and there is a message.![Unsure](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/unsure.gif)
I will email the EA and ask if she managed to get hold of them and go out and try and forget about it....
Hope your phone rings today!
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HI FA, hope Beth and her family are all ok.
Do you also sometimes have the feeling that if you stare hard and long enough at your phone it will ring and give you good news...
...doesn't work though....WHY...HAHA
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16 babies......NO WAY......but....I agree, there lies a business opportunity, but who's gonna change all the nappies
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HI FA, hope Beth and her family are all ok.
Do you also sometimes have the feeling that if you stare hard and long enough at your phone it will ring and give you good news...
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I just saw Beth was posting on the Tassie thread a few minutes ago - hopefully she'll pop over here in a minute.
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I know what you mean about the phone. I'm always looking at mine to see if I have not heard it ring and there is a message.
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I will email the EA and ask if she managed to get hold of them and go out and try and forget about it....
Hope your phone rings today!
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It'll only hurt if you get your thumbs in the way.![ROFL](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
I'm getting so bad with the phone. If I pop out, I'll check the phone for messages, if no messages then I'll go through the caller display as well.![EEK!](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
Well, as I said, I think I'm going mad. (Actually, I think I'm there).![ROFL](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
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Thanks hun - I'm going to go out and try and forget about it....
Morning M,
I just saw Beth was posting on the Tassie thread a few minutes ago - hopefully she'll pop over here in a minute.
I know what you mean about the phone. I'm always looking at mine to see if I have not heard it ring and there is a message.
I will email the EA and ask if she managed to get hold of them and go out and try and forget about it....
Hope your phone rings today!
Morning M,
I just saw Beth was posting on the Tassie thread a few minutes ago - hopefully she'll pop over here in a minute.
I know what you mean about the phone. I'm always looking at mine to see if I have not heard it ring and there is a message.
I will email the EA and ask if she managed to get hold of them and go out and try and forget about it....
Hope your phone rings today!
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Well, as I said, I think I'm going mad. (Actually, I think I'm there).
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I'm getting so bad with the phone. If I pop out, I'll check the phone for messages, if no messages then I'll go through the caller display as well.:
Well, as I said, I think I'm going mad. (Actually, I think I'm there).:
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PMSL!!!
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I'm getting so bad with the phone. If I pop out, I'll check the phone for messages, if no messages then I'll go through the caller display as well.:
Well, as I said, I think I'm going mad. (Actually, I think I'm there).:
Good luck everyone.
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I'm still here - waiting for my DD to get out of bed!!
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In the old days, before mobiles and ansaphones and caller display, I'm sure that we were much saner!
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Whats all this with making more babies and mile high clubs? How is everyone this morning?
Hunky not bulky viewer today 11.30am.
Have been cleaning again since about 7 this morning and now don't know what to do or where to sit. Nobody is allowed home until they have been. Every bed is made to perfection, all loo rolls folded (saddo) and all carpets hoovered in stripes. Oh my god how paranoid. Does anyone really live like that?
Will let you know how it goes later.
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We've had an auction valuation done on our house and it is still considerably lower than the minimum we would accept at the moment.
However, in a couple of months we might give it a try. As you say, if you set a reserve, you know the minimum it will sell for. (Although it may not sell) Plus, we were quoted £300 fee plus 2% of the sale price and then £200 for subsequant auctions, which isn't too bad, but EAs here are charging 1% which means we could sell for the reserve price via an EA and still take away more cash...
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We've had an auction valuation done on our house and it is still considerably lower than the minimum we would accept at the moment.
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There seems to be a line of people that attend auctions convinced they will get a bargain and, because someone is bidding against them, (often the auctioneer taking bids 'off the wall') they become convinced they are not paying over the odds - because someone else is willing to pay the same price - so they keep bidding.
Seems like a one way bet for sellers to me.
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I'd give the auction I go if I were you. I have attended all my local auctions until recently ... I have given up because the prices properties fetch are too high! When I say too high I have seen properties where I have looked up on the Land Registry that similar ones have sold for say 220k - in good nick - and then watched in amazement as a similar property needing renovation changes hands at auction for 235k.
There seems to be a line of people that attend auctions convinced they will get a bargain and, because someone is bidding against them, (often the auctioneer taking bids 'off the wall') they become convinced they are not paying over the odds - because someone else is willing to pay the same price - so they keep bidding.
Seems like a one way bet for sellers to me.
There seems to be a line of people that attend auctions convinced they will get a bargain and, because someone is bidding against them, (often the auctioneer taking bids 'off the wall') they become convinced they are not paying over the odds - because someone else is willing to pay the same price - so they keep bidding.
Seems like a one way bet for sellers to me.
Well, that sounds like good news. We will definately think again in a couple of months if the house hasn't sold and we have our visa. (Still waiting at the moment) It is worth a try, if nothing else.
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Hi all.....thanks for the good wishes......funeral on Monday morning to sort out now.
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A whole year on the market this month :curse:
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Hi FA, DTP,O2O, tum, hayles, FA and anybody else.
Whats all this with making more babies and mile high clubs? How is everyone this morning?
Hunky not bulky viewer today 11.30am.
Have been cleaning again since about 7 this morning and now don't know what to do or where to sit. Nobody is allowed home until they have been. Every bed is made to perfection, all loo rolls folded (saddo) and all carpets hoovered in stripes. Oh my god how paranoid. Does anyone really live like that?
Will let you know how it goes later.
Nicky xx
Whats all this with making more babies and mile high clubs? How is everyone this morning?
Hunky not bulky viewer today 11.30am.
Have been cleaning again since about 7 this morning and now don't know what to do or where to sit. Nobody is allowed home until they have been. Every bed is made to perfection, all loo rolls folded (saddo) and all carpets hoovered in stripes. Oh my god how paranoid. Does anyone really live like that?
Will let you know how it goes later.
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I hope it does the trick for you though.
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I was sorry to hear your news. Hope it hasn't been too horrible for everyone.
Fingers crossed for some viewings when the kids go back to school next week.
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good luck with the hordes of viewers today [don't we just wish
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baby making business?!?! well, i can sort of understand dan
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no news for us. - we dont' even have our visa yet so we are not in such a hurry really. but still, it would be so nice if everything just fell into place at the same time ...... yeah right, dream on
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good luck with the hordes of viewers today [don't we just wish
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baby making business?!?! well, i can sort of understand dan
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no news for us. - we dont' even have our visa yet so we are not in such a hurry really. but still, it would be so nice if everything just fell into place at the same time ...... yeah right, dream on
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I, on the other hand, am dreading the two weeks coming up.
Oh, I agree. I haven't given the EA my mobile no as I don't hear it when it rings, anyway.
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Hi FA, DTP,O2O, tum, hayles, FA and anybody else.
Whats all this with making more babies and mile high clubs? How is everyone this morning?
Hunky not bulky viewer today 11.30am.
Have been cleaning again since about 7 this morning and now don't know what to do or where to sit. Nobody is allowed home until they have been. Every bed is made to perfection, all loo rolls folded (saddo) and all carpets hoovered in stripes. Oh my god how paranoid. Does anyone really live like that?
Will let you know how it goes later.
Nicky xx
Whats all this with making more babies and mile high clubs? How is everyone this morning?
Hunky not bulky viewer today 11.30am.
Have been cleaning again since about 7 this morning and now don't know what to do or where to sit. Nobody is allowed home until they have been. Every bed is made to perfection, all loo rolls folded (saddo) and all carpets hoovered in stripes. Oh my god how paranoid. Does anyone really live like that?
Will let you know how it goes later.
Nicky xx
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Did you bounce a coin off the beds?
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I really feel for you. House selling vibes coming your way.
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I do that, choose the room that has the best view, the best natural lighting, the most space etc and keep em chatting.
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