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Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 11259525)
And don't forget forcing young people to move to find work. Of course, as we all know, moving is completely free and doesn't come with any associated costs whatsoever, so young people will be completely able to move around the country for work.
They won't need money for transportation, moving costs, leasing deposits etc - that's all completely free. What a brilliant solution! S |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 11254212)
If on Tuesday, the debt levy, increased petrol excise, ( which will be passed on in every sector ) and the already approved ( but forgotten about ) increase to the medicare levy, plus the (much needed though! ) cuts to family benefits, all go through. Right at the same time, electricty and car registration go up again. Plus other cuts not confimred yet??
This is something that really shits me - in NSW registration cost (and CTP) increases are always well beyond CPI - mine was something like 18% this year. It's clearly just revenue raising by the states, rather than actually representing a reasonable cost for service. S |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11259468)
I don't understand the thinking around people under 30 having to wait 6 months before they are entitled to unemployment benefits. Plenty of single income people under 30 who have families that can suddenly become unemployed. What are they to do?
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Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11259468)
I don't understand the thinking around people under 30 having to wait 6 months before they are entitled to unemployment benefits. Plenty of single income people under 30 who have families that can suddenly become unemployed. What are they to do?
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Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 11259848)
They can minimise lines of credit, and, during the good times adjust their lives to well within their means so that they can build a rainy day fund.
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Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11259868)
Yes, I think that's exactly what the government were thinking. If you lose your job, have more savings and whatever. Unfortunately, hindsight doesn't help those who do not have a safety net of money under the mattress. What happens then?
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Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by knockoff nige
(Post 11259868)
Yes, I think that's exactly what the government were thinking. If you lose your job, have more savings and whatever. Unfortunately, hindsight doesn't help those who do not have a safety net of money under the mattress. What happens then?
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Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 11259888)
Look...the money to fund a quarter billion dollars of Christian indoctrinators in schools had to come from somewhere...priorities!
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Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 11260678)
Oh cool, so the taxpayer is expected to support people who have lived beyond their means?
Regardless if whether or not you want to give to these people, do you believe that this should result in their family becoming homeless? I can see that definitely happening if there is no money from anywhere. You suggest minimising lines of credit which could actually be what puts them on the street. If people have no money and no job but willing to work, surely they need assistance? Not everyone looking to claim welfare has been foolish with their money. I think this has been overlooked because it currently affects no-one. In six months after the budget, people will be hit with this. Also, this government has done nothing in the way of job creation. Quite the opposite in fact. |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 11260718)
If true, then it could fit well with the strategy of making people more self-reliant. Christians are well known for being frugal.
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Re: Share the pain
Whilst I think balancing the books is important this budget has crossed the Rubicon with the $7 fee to see a Dr. Next year it will be $10 etc… There are many people who will not visit a Dr because of this (I'm thinking Indigenous people in particular) and will flock to the ER for even minor ailments.
I think very many Australians are doing it tough and even people on average wages will be hit hard with these FTB cuts which some people like to paint as "welfare". I think this will cost them the Libs the next election although whoever comes after won't be repealing this in any hurry. |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 11260998)
Whilst I think balancing the books is important this budget has crossed the Rubicon with the $7 fee to see a Dr. Next year it will be $10 etc… There are many people who will not visit a Dr because of this (I'm thinking Indigenous people in particular) and will flock to the ER for even minor ailments.
I think very many Australians are doing it tough and even people on average wages will be hit hard with these FTB cuts which some people like to paint as "welfare". I think this will cost them the Libs the next election although whoever comes after won't be repealing this in any hurry. I am not totally against the $7 co payment fee. Because of a condition being investigated I have just paid thousands in Specialists, prescriptions, ( one painkiller is a dollar a pill) and diagnostic medicine, not all tests are bulk billed, one MRI was $480 alone. Yet, you see people who obviously have no regard for their health, weight, diet, smoking, caffeine drinks, rec drugs or booze in large quantities, who roll up with a small book of prescriptions and pay next to nothing. Maybe if there was a tiny charge they might start to take some responsibility for their own health. And you can bet the ones who 'cant' afford $7 towards the Doctor will be able to afford maccas, diet coke, drugs, fags..... |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 11260718)
If true, then it could fit well with the strategy of making people more self-reliant. Christians are well known for being frugal.
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Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 11261007)
They said a fee would be put on hospitals, for non emergency visits to ER. Indigenous people often are exempt from fees anyway.
I am not totally against the $7 co payment fee. Because of a condition being investigated I have just paid thousands in Specialists, prescriptions, ( one painkiller is a dollar a pill) and diagnostic medicine, not all tests are bulk billed, one MRI was $480 alone. Yet, you see people who obviously have no regard for their health, weight, diet, smoking, caffeine drinks, rec drugs or booze in large quantities, who roll up with a small book of prescriptions and pay next to nothing. Maybe if there was a tiny charge they might start to take some responsibility for their own health. And you can bet the ones who 'cant' afford $7 towards the Doctor will be able to afford maccas, diet coke, drugs, fags..... Sure good points but there are people, like kids of addicts or others who might be disabled or looking after a disabled person who are extremely vulnerable and poor who will be hit very hard by this budget. |
Re: Share the pain
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 11261007)
I am not totally against the $7 co payment fee. Because of a condition being investigated I have just paid thousands in Specialists, prescriptions, ( one painkiller is a dollar a pill) and diagnostic medicine, not all tests are bulk billed, one MRI was $480 alone.
I also wouldn't object to the co-payment if it were being re-invested into health services - but as it stands this is little more than an unrequested income boost for GPs... S |
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