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http://mobile.news.com.au/national/a...-1226898849819

Its hardly sharing.

What the frig is the obsession about not being on debt anyway?

Well thanks Labour for costing me and many others nice holiday each year. Time to depart these fine shores

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We need to see debt as the Germans do:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-18868704

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So you refuse to blame the people who are actually going to steal your money; who are going to give it to their supporters as a pay off; who are responsible for not getting those that should be paying more (Gina, Clive and the resources sector) properly taxed; and who refuse to make the burden fall on them even now.

Does insanity run in your family?

This has nothing to do with debt, fairness, etc. - it's an ideological attack on those at the bottom of society, because this bunch of crims feel that cold, hungry and desperate is the right place for the lower orders to be.

At least Mary Antoinette said the proletariat should eat cake - Tone just thinks they should work till they die, pay most of the taxes from less than the minimum to live, so that he and his mates can afford their yachts.

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Economy that's the envy of the world and yet these fools think we believe their bullshit about a budget emergency. This is clearly about Abbot wanting to leave a legacy of getting the budget back in the black in super fast time. At our expense. That tax levy will raise only a small portion of the gift of 9 billion they gave the reserve bank that they didn't need.

This is so blatant it's outrageous. Does this mean the NDIS levy is scrapped in favour of this?

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Its not a country that gives incentive to work and do well any more.

The tax rates are so high, with this levy, the medicare levy, the surcharge or private insurance costs which still leave you with a surcharge of thousands if you get sick. Someone on a reasonable salary say a manger is going to be paying around 50c in the dollar tax. Dont forget people on that type of salary IME are usually expected to work 60+ hours a week.

Then they retire and there is no age pension, any super/assets you have worked for will wipe that out. Even the health care card looks like being axed for pensioners who worked hard. You wont even get discounted medicine.

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That bullshite was being pumped out again last night on the business channel.

Its a phrase attached so often to anything where Australia feels it has something to be worried about.

lets all sing "we are world class, we are the best, the world wants to be us" ....yeah really:unsure:

Country is in a huge financial mess and the only answer is to expect the 8 million ? people who actually work to fix it.

Its like trying to hold up the Sydney Harbour bridge with matchsticks.

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"The Daily Telegraph understands the budget will reveal for the first time that the deficit inherited from the Rudd government was going to still be $30 billion in 2017-18.

But with tough measures to cut spending and this tax levy, Mr Hockey will predict the deficit will be largely ­eliminated by then. This means the levy should apply only for four years."


History has a funny way of repeating itself hasn't it? And it goes something likes this - Labour takes charge, spending money, left right and center giving people a false sense of security and wellbeing. Labour then soak-in the praise and popularity until they can no longer hide their frivolous and careless spending habits ( bonuses included) cracks start to show and people begin to slowly realise that Labour have robbed them blind, and suddenly for Labour the show is over.
What follows is normally a recession followed by people voting in another party, the Conservaties.The Conservatives then have to pick up all the pieces of crap the Labour Government left behind, so they put Taxes up etc. People moan and eventually Labour gets voted back in, useually round about the time the Conservatives have just finished paying off all the countries debts that Labour produced. Then Labour take over and it all starts again......Same shit different generation, when will the people wake up.

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The country is not in a huge financial mess but it could very well be if government spending continues as it is. Corporations need fewer tax breaks, not more. The idea of scrapping the carbon tax in favour of paying polluters to pollute less is suicide. Increasing corporate tax just to allow a ridiculously generous paid parental leave scheme doesn't fill me with confidence. $75000 to
A rich woman for having a baby. What the hell do they think the word 'entitlement' means?

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You know what Jad, it's a big worry for people like my family who were hoping to be better off there, when I say better off I'm talking financially of course.

Years ago when me and my husband first started looking into emergrating to Australia and the early days of our Visa route, Australia was a very different place, we are seriously having second thoughts now, I'm not sure if it's last minute nerves or the fact we are making a wise decision.

It's a tough call.

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What? The John Howard government spent more than any other government. The Rudd government had a GFC to manage. Right now, Australia is in better shape than most first world countries. Yet, we have a budget emergency. Unfortunately, you swallowed the tripe that Abbot and Hockey fed you and are not looking at the unbalanced spending they have made in the 8 months they've been in power. If the budget was so bad, why scrap the carbon tax? They protested against it because it would significantly increase your utility bills. Now they want to scrap that and tax you more anyway.

How can anyone accept their bullshit?

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Did you accept Rudds?

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Hockey has been fiddling the figures to try and say the deficit is bigger than it is, and to ensure than when he unwinds the lies he can look like he's doing better than he is (even whilst giving away billions to his donors).

Remember that $8bn Hockey gave to the RBA when they weren't asking for it? That he's putting on Rudd's balance sheet, even though it entirely his action. And the reason is that that money then comes back to the government over time, on *his* balance sheet, making it look better.

In short, it's lies and fraud.

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Firstly, I didn't get to vote until this last election.
Secondly, I don't 'pick a team' in politics. I have my own mind and decide on policy ahead of party bias.

I accepted that the Labor party were about the lower income earner, disadvantaged and small business ahead of the corporations. I think thy we're too soft with dealing with the corporations. But this government have broken many promises and make it clear that they put corporations first. This might work if it was all about creating jobs and giving the individual a better quality of life. But this is about votes, political donations and maintaining power. The Labor government was guilty of this too, but the coalition is too 'in your face' about it.

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As apposed to the Rudd Government which was what? Truths and honesty? Lol!

Don't make me laugh Garry.

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Garry provided you with an example of a lie, can you provide an example of Kevin Rudds lies? It's only fair if you want to debate with substance.