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Molly Coddle Apr 28th 2014 11:39 am

Re: Share the pain
 
The difference between the Labour Government and the opposing parties is Labour are better liars, oh, and actors. They have everybody fooled, well, some people.

I'm not keen on any of the main parties, but one is more dangerous than others and in my opinion people ( the voters) need to break that mould.

Molly Coddle Apr 28th 2014 11:47 am

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Originally Posted by knockoff nige (Post 11238386)
Garry provided you with an example of a lie, can you provide an example of Kevin Rudds lies? It's only fair if you want to debate with substance.


Yes, I probably could provide you with countless of his lies, but I have to ask myself, can I really be arsed? And the answer to that is, no, sorry.

I'm sure you will revel in that reply. Fill your boots;)



I've said what I need too. Like every political thread on any forum there will be those who agree and those who don't so nothing will ever be accomplished by such threads, but one has to stand up for ones beliefs. Eh nige?:D


Goodnight all:wub:

GarryP Apr 28th 2014 11:47 am

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Originally Posted by Molly Coddle (Post 11238387)
The difference between the Labour Government and the opposing parties is Labour are better liars, oh, and actors. They have everybody fooled, well, some people.

I'm not keen on any of the main parties, but one is more dangerous than others and in my opinion people ( the voters) need to break that mould.

Well, I half agree. Neither of the main parties is fit for purpose. However there is a key difference which I think you ignore. Labor, etc. have tried to build things, fix screwups, make progress. Tone is in the process of destroying things, breaking them down, doing damage, going backwards.

So even if both side were complete liars (something I don't accept), you should be supporting Labor as at least undertaking positive actions in practice.

knockoff nige Apr 28th 2014 11:54 am

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Originally Posted by Molly Coddle (Post 11238389)
Yes, I probably could provide you with countless of his lies, but I have to ask myself, can I really be arsed? And the answer to that is, no, sorry.

I'm sure you will revel in that reply. Fill your boots;)



I've said what I need too. Like every political thread on any forum there will be those who agree and those who don't so nothing will ever be accomplished by such threads, but one has to stand up for ones beliefs. Eh nige?:D


Goodnight all:wub:

Abbot couldn't have put it better himself. Say something without saying anything.

thistlehollyberry Apr 28th 2014 12:41 pm

Re: Share the pain
 
The levy will only apply for four years. Yeah - I believe that!

GarryP Apr 28th 2014 12:57 pm

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Originally Posted by thistlehollyberry (Post 11238443)
The l̶e̶v̶y̶ tax will only apply for four years. Yeah - I believe that!

FTFY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax#United_Kingdom

The empirical evidence is that when a government can get away with taxing something, it tends to continue to do so.

jad n rich Apr 28th 2014 2:28 pm

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I saw TV twice yesterday, once at the gym where Australias debt was only 30 billion and then by choice I was watching the the business channel where the debt was 350 billion.

Its like a comedy skit, oh bloody hell who knows?, so lets all just link arms put on a parrot green and canary yellow singlet and sing, "we are world class, worlds best you are evnviousssssss"

Amazulu Apr 28th 2014 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 11238529)
I saw TV twice yesterday, once at the gym where Australias debt was only 30 billion and then by choice I was watching the the business channel where the debt was 350 billion.

Its like a comedy skit, oh bloody hell who knows?, so lets all just link arms put on a parrot green and canary yellow singlet and sing, "we are world class, worlds best you are evnviousssssss"

Government deficit is $30b - like a current account overdraft
Government debt is $350b - like a mortgage

jad n rich Apr 28th 2014 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by thistlehollyberry (Post 11238443)
The levy will only apply for four years. Yeah - I believe that!


Initial reports ( last week ) were one off, one year.

It went to 4 quickly.

Meanwhile..

While workers get a debt levy, one new crazy handout is a wedding gift from the Abbott ( the taxpayer) , of $2000 to newly weds.

That's right, loved up people who spend more than that on a wedding cake or flowers get $2000 for marriage counseling.

Beoz Apr 28th 2014 2:42 pm

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Well Garry, which one of your lefty dribbles do I respond to? Throw the cards up and down came mining tax.

Yeah let's tax the mines. Yes let's tax the one industry that kept the country afloat during the GFC, let's tax the one industry that has the greatest risk of putting all eggs in the China basket, let's tax the one industry employing a vast amount of highly paid individuals whose high salary contributes a great degree of tax. Let's NOT allow mining to flourish - you know the more mining companies make, the more we can access to it in corporate tax.

jad n rich Apr 28th 2014 2:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11238535)
Government deficit is $30b - like a current account overdraft
Government debt is $350b - like a mortgage


Yes, they are the figures we are told.

So at least people talking about it on TV could get it the right way round.

Beoz Apr 28th 2014 2:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Molly Coddle (Post 11238348)
You know what Jad, it's a big worry for people like my family who were hoping to be better off there, when I say better off I'm talking financially of course.

Years ago when me and my husband first started looking into emergrating to Australia and the early days of our Visa route, Australia was a very different place, we are seriously having second thoughts now, I'm not sure if it's last minute nerves or the fact we are making a wise decision.

It's a tough call.

Your moving to Brisbane. Tax is the least of your worries.

Amazulu Apr 28th 2014 3:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11238540)
Well Garry, which one of your lefty dribbles do I respond to? Throw the cards up and down came mining tax.

Yeah let's tax the mines. Yes let's tax the one industry that kept the country afloat during the GFC, let's tax the one industry that has the greatest risk of putting all eggs in the China basket, let's tax the one industry employing a vast amount of highly paid individuals whose high salary contributes a great degree of tax. Let's NOT allow mining to flourish - you know the more mining companies make, the more we can access to it in corporate tax.

Yes, mining tax is stupid. Excessive profits? Then why no bank tax seeing as they make massive profits? That's right, they own the government

Dump the mining tax but as a condition, require the mining companies to keep on investing (which they are not doing at the moment)

If we want to keep mining and LNG projects rolling, bring in a 'use it or lose it' rule on claims. If a mining company has rights and chooses not to develop, give them to a company that will

jad n rich Apr 28th 2014 3:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11238546)
Your moving to Brisbane. Tax is the least of your worries.

You havent heard :D

http://www.choosebrisbane.com/G20brisbane

knockoff nige Apr 28th 2014 4:04 pm

Re: Share the pain
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11238540)
Well Garry, which one of your lefty dribbles do I respond to? Throw the cards up and down came mining tax.

Yeah let's tax the mines. Yes let's tax the one industry that kept the country afloat during the GFC, let's tax the one industry that has the greatest risk of putting all eggs in the China basket, let's tax the one industry employing a vast amount of highly paid individuals whose high salary contributes a great degree of tax. Let's NOT allow mining to flourish - you know the more mining companies make, the more we can access to it in corporate tax.

A tax on mining Australian resources should have been done all along and that money held to help us avoid a 'budget emergency'.

Miners are not going to stop mining as long as the resources are there and they will still employ.

Please don't suggest that Gina Rinehart kept the country afloat. That fails on so many levels.


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