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In high school teen worked for one of australias biggest retailers. Kids and long serving adults were treated the same, casual hours and if daiy targets were not met, then the hours were chopped. From may to august people supporting families were getting 2, 4 or 10 hours a week and the school kids got nil. Notices in the staff room about food banks. Team members in the ads, singing and dancing, reality, the foodbank.

Yet when they employed about twice a year, they would interview about 600, whittled down by each stage of the 3 or 4 interviews and all sorts of testing, they would pick about 12 - 20 people.

Easy :unsure: hardly.

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The way that the parties approach things is always going to be about ideology. Be honest, the only reason that you're whining is because it's not your ideology that's prevailing - else you'd be cheering them on. :thumbsup:

We're spending more than we're earning so yes, it very definitely is a budget emergency. Labor and the greens seem comfortable with that situation while the coalition is not. However, I'm less than impressed with most of the measures being deployed to reduce it - especially the university fee changes and the fact that negative gearing wasn't even looked at.

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You can stick with your Hungary Jacks. Once your ten hours there is up, work in Coles, drive a taxi, work in a bar.

We all do some pretty awful things to get by. Personally I spend 80 hours a week doing a job I dislike more and more as the weeks progress. I'm rarely at home, but I do it to get by.

Speaking of ignorant - Get off your high horse.

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High Horse? How bizarre. If you think I'm suggesting that I'm above unskilled work then you're wrong. I came to Sydney in 2008 and spent four months looking for work. The unskilled work seemed to be harder to get than work closer to my profession. They didn't want me as I would be jumping ship as soon as a job in my skill came a long. It's just to easy to assume that there is plenty of work out there if you're not a job snob.

But on top of that, lets say you lose your job and have to juggle some part time low paying work to pay your bills and feed your family. This all makes it very difficult to find new work in your trade. That, along with the black mark of having lost your job in the first place (your fault though but it does make it difficult and can add more time to the problem). So, it could easily be 6 months out of work and then signing onto the dole.

I didn't watch all of Q&A last night and so didn't hear Joe Hockeys response to this particular budget cut. However, I did watch the Roast which quoted him from a radio talk show and he was asked what will people under 30 do if they lose their job. His response was 'firstly, start by having a job'. Thats the type of genius we have crunching the numbers for us. What a twit.

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One other thing that bothers me. This GP co-payment. Not so much the payment itself but how it's getting distributed. $2 to the doctor, apparently to encourage doctor patient discretion on whether to charge the co-payment or not. That makes no sense to me and, isn't this just taking welfare from the poor and giving welfare to doctors? And $2? What would that be, $70 a day extra for them?

$5 going to medical research. Joe Hockey said this is in fact going to Medicare as it will help find cures for cancer, mental illness etc. If we're talking about a budget emergency, how does it make sense to send this money off to another area of health/medicine which won't be even a small part of the solution to this 'budget emergency'? That's just more proof of the lies we're hearing. He's starting to sound like Vicky Pollard.

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Considering what he was up against on Q&A last night: that socialist prick Tony Jones and a whiny, why me?, leftie Western Sydney crowd, I though Hockey did okay

Sure, he finally admitted what we all know that there are new taxes but he also answered a lot of his critics. There was a young joker from Tasmania moaning about 18000 unemployed but only 500 jobs advertised, when he should have been asking about the socialist losers who have destroyed the economy of that state by only taking and consuming and never creating

Onya big Joe

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Who exactly? The guys who don't pay their way when they can afford it?

Hockey dodged the question as well. He says the government aren't really the employer of people, they are responsible for the economy which encourages more job creation. Yet, the truth is, this government has done the opposite of that and this budget will discourage individuals to spend which will have a big hit on our perfectly healthy economy.

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The economy destroyers you mean?

Not sure. The economy is about 15% bigger than it was at the end of 2007. What an awful record eh!? We can only look enviously at all those other developed economies that have fared so much better. :unsure:

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We aren't here to fund those sitting around looking to further their career.

if I was made redundant tomorrow, I would work as anything, rather than receive the dole and I'm over 30 which means I have choices.

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:rolleyes:
I was referring to Tasmania specifically - where there are (according to that joker on Q&A last night) 18000 unemployed and only 500 advertised jobs

Years of socialism has caused that

Yes, overall Australia is tracking okay - much better than a lot of other western countries

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I have no problem with this. Nice lefty view of 'doctors earn too much anyway'.

Well with that attitude you might as well put the medical profession to bed. Where's the incentive for years of study. That's right they should do it for free because they are nice people.

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That's hitting the point with your own face and still not seeing it. Way to go.

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Are you on glue?

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What? For suggesting doctors should earn a healthy salary? If you think otherwise then good luck

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No, for suggesting that other people don't or that Doctors don't earn a decent salary already. I don't begrudge anyone earning a decent salary but I see it being a stupid government decision to take $2 from a pensioner or lower income family to give to the doctor who is already getting paid a decent salary.