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Old Jul 2nd 2009 | 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Deancm
Arranged marriages have a higher success rate than non-arranged ones.
If that is the case it is probably more down to cultural pressures rather than true 'success' - there's a huge amount of pressure in those cultures to 'obey' the elders, who have usually chosen the spouse in the first place.
 
Old Jul 2nd 2009 | 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Petals
For legal reason much safer to be married. I cannot understand that if you want to live with a person why you could not be bothered to make the time to commit to one another be it in the registry office or a church.

Its like saying this will do for now and then I can leave later.

Working in legal I can tell you its not as easy as you think and the property settlements are different.

People who have been married and then enter into defacto relationships often have a nasty shock if one of them dies, the children and the former wife often inherit as the spouse has forgotten to tell superannuation etc. Superannuation trustee has the right to decide who should have the money.

Often things end up in a mess in court and if only people took half an hour out of their lives to make it more concrete and simple.
Another reason why people shouldn't get married in the first place and under Australian law de facto is treated the same as marriage.
 
Old Jul 2nd 2009 | 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by twizzle
If that is the case it is probably more down to cultural pressures rather than true 'success' - there's a huge amount of pressure in those cultures to 'obey' the elders, who have usually chosen the spouse in the first place.
Yes, I would say that is spot on.
 
Old Jul 2nd 2009 | 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Deancm
Yes, I would say that is spot on.
Interstingly, I'm reliably informed by friends in such cultures & circumstances that affairs are rather the norm.... keep the marriage intact, but have your fun on the side... so not sure I'd call arranged marriages successful really.
 
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Originally Posted by twizzle
Interstingly, I'm reliably informed by friends in such cultures & circumstances that affairs are rather the norm.... keep the marriage intact, but have your fun on the side... so not sure I'd call arranged marriages successful really.
Agree with that too. It just goes to show that monogamy is not possible.
 
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Originally Posted by Deancm
Agree with that too. It just goes to show that monogamy is not possible.
Why does that show that monogomy isn't possible? Just because two people who have been thrown together choose to sleep with other people outside of their marriage doesn't mean that people can't be monogamous (sp?)

Perhaps the people who choose their husband or wives and in turn are sexually attracted to them might be less inclined to be unfaithful.
 
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Originally Posted by Peepster
Funnily enough I was thinking the very same thing. I wonder if it's cos there's fewer people so not as much choice on offer.
Ooops not the best quote - was pertaining to the rate of marriage breakdown in Aus compared with UK.

Interesting for me it is the reverse. I have very few UK friends on their second marriages and far more here. Last year at the end of July we and my parents notched up 95 years of marriage between us - so 97 years at the end of this month. It's worked for us and I would do it again even though he is Australian.
 
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Originally Posted by Louiseh86
Why does that show that monogomy isn't possible? Just because two people who have been thrown together choose to sleep with other people outside of their marriage doesn't mean that people can't be monogamous (sp?)
People are not designed by nature to be monogamous. It is so embedded into out genetic make up it's not funny. Monogamy, while it is possible, goes against our very nature.

Perhaps the people who choose their husband or wives and in turn are sexually attracted to them might be less inclined to be unfaithful.
Men are biologically designed to impregnate as many women as possible to ensure the survival of the species. Women are designed to have sex with as many men as possible to ensure that their eggs are fertilised by the strongest male seed possible and thus ensure survival of the species.

Attractiveness fades once you have had sex a few times with the same partner.
 
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Originally Posted by deedee_b

I dont think I'll get married. Judging by my family's history of divorces it isnt a very clever thing to do. Think divorce could run in the family?
I hope not cos my dad is on his 3rd marriage and my mother is on her second! I am child of first marriage of each (to each other) & saw a couple of very nasty, drawnout divorces up close over the years. But it didn't stop me getting married last year - am so happy & figure that just cos my parents messed up doesn't mean I will. Also am much older than they were the first times they got married which I think makes a difference. Ref OP, I love being married, we eloped, it was nothing to do with churches or parties or presents, it was just us and just for us. And it does feel different to living together unmarried. Imo it's a very personal decision, especially these days when it's not legally / socially required & don't think there can be a proven arguement on either side as to whether there's a point to marriage or not, just different personal opinions. Clearly marriage is not for OP!
 
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Originally Posted by Deancm
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Attractiveness fades once you have had sex a few times with the same partner.
You state that as a fact so assume that is case for you, but is not case for everyone, is pointless wild generalisation to state such a thing! Think you just like to get people going huh?
 
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I always thought that marriage was more about a tax law and less about romance. I dont fancy marriage myself as the idea fills me with boredom. I went out with a girl once who seemed to be more interested in marriage to appease her parents expectations than her own plus she had funny ideas about sex which had me running in the other direction. Both my parents have been married three times so theres no sanctity there.

I'll be a bachelor boy and thats the way I'll stay................
 
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Originally Posted by PamE
You state that as a fact so assume that is case for you, but is not case for everyone, is pointless wild generalisation to state such a thing! Think you just like to get people going huh?
It's different for men than it is for women. Men want to bed as many women as possible. Once you've had sex with them you view them differently.
 
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Originally Posted by Officer Dibble
I always thought that marriage was more about a tax law and less about romance. I dont fancy marriage myself as the idea fills me with boredom. I went out with a girl once who seemed to be more interested in marriage to appease her parents expectations than her own plus she had funny ideas about sex which had me running in the other direction. Both my parents have been married three times so theres no sanctity there.

I'll be a bachelor boy and thats the way I'll stay................
Marriage is letting the government get involved with your relationship.
 
Old Jul 2nd 2009 | 9:36 pm
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In Marriage , The woman hopes she can change to man , and the man hopes the woman never changes... Typically it ends up being round the other way.

After a couple of years, its non-stop doggy style sex. I sit up and beg and she rolls over and plays dead
 
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Originally Posted by Deancm
It's different for men than it is for women. Men want to bed as many women as possible. Once you've had sex with them you view them differently.
You are either a wind-up merchant or for some reason very bitter and also inexplicably incapable of realising that not every man is same as you...

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