.... I know it's The Barbie, but many of us from all over the place look at interesting threads from wherever so maybe if you meant it to be country-specific (? why?) it should have said Marriage - is there any point in Oz? ??


Oh, and if you did say there's no such thing as a successful relationship, you may not be bitter, only you would know that, but you are certainly wrong! Relationships may have their ups and downs but there'd be plenty of folk into decades of happy wedlock (or not wedlock) willing to express how their relationship is successful.

Yes, I can see how you would think that is a successful marriage. You must be a rocket scientist.

No, because it came to an end.

I said divorces initiated, not divorce proceedings filed. And my figures were actually U.S. stats.

Still, the point I was making is that it is more likely that the female will intiate the divorce, which your figures clearly show.

The odds are just not good enough for me to risk my life/future on.

Sexually frustrated then

I would call that stupidity as well

With a 50% chance of divorce, it's totally foolish not to consider the risk.

Entering into marriage for life is all very nice and idealistic but the fact remains, for every two couples that get married, one will get divorced.

End result is:

about 46% of marriages break up.
about 80% of relationships without the marriage commitment, break up.

From that point, a marriage seem safer.... if you wish to stay together...

Then i'd would counter that there'd be plenty of folk that are telling porkies.

Not necessarily because in the latter, there usually would be assets/property settlements so they don't lose out financially.

Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?

I would say there are far more sexually frustrated married men.

but surely the whole point is you make your own fate and if you go into it expecting it to end and preparing for that outcome before you've even said i do then it's going to go that way!

It actually makes no difference these days, married or not, it is treated the same.


Another interesting thing I found was:

Time between separation and divorce
1988 2.8 years
1998 3.4 years
2007 3.6 years

Assuming that could be true of some of them......
go on then, what's your definition of a successful relationship (and don't wimp out by saying you can't define something that doesn't exist) and/or what makes you able to form that judgement when you (none of us, actually) are in no position to judge what people's relationships are like - and I'm talking about those that stay together. Presumably the ones who don't it's fair to say it wasn't successful!

Speak for yourself

When you talk about the population of the world then Im sure there maybe some but the opinions coming from your good self tell me you have to be a complete wind up or a complete w**ker. No offence intended.