I also remember reading your posts a couple of years back.. I think I told you not to make the move. But here you are, so lets try and think about how to get yourself heading in the right direction.

First off, you and your partner need to find work. You may not be able to find work in your chosen fields, or locations. You may not be able to find the hours or pay that you are after. But you need to be flexible in this regard. You need to think in terms of "short term pain, long term gain."

There aren't many employment opportunities on the gold coast, and the sunshine coast is worse still. You need to get yourself into one of the big cities. Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney or Perth. Why put yourself through more financial hardship and stress by moving over to Perth ??! Brisbane is just up the road. Step 1 - move up to Brisbane for job opportunities.

Now your next problem is, what job? An apprentice electrician? Lets be realistic, that opportunity is out the window for the time being. You can revisit it later on if you wish. Right now you are struggling to bring in money to support your family. You need to be flexible and start looking for other roles that will pay you money. People have already given you some ideas. Helping on construction sites. Driving a bus or perhaps a small delivery truck. Working for aus post. Working in a bar. There is a lot of work out there that will pay you $$$, if you want to do it. Your mrs may have more luck re: hairdressing....but she will need to take the flexible approach too. step 2 - be flexible.

If you do the above, then I believe that you will soon be earning some money and putting yourself back on track. Once your money worries are out the way, you need to start planning for the future. You will probably be doing work that is very hard and you don't enjoy. How can you improve your life? How can you get into the apprenticeship that you are looking for ? How can your mrs get into hairdressing or whatever ? These are things you need to think carefully about. step 3 - once you have eliminated your immediate money worries, start planning


Good luck.

Apprenticeship system in Aus is archiac. It is out of date and out of touch it is totally focused on the school leaver but guess what a fair proportion of 16 - 18 year olds don't know what they want to do with thier lives unlike potentail mature age apprentices. My heart goes out to you davidb1989, as when I first arrived here after leaving the British Army tried to get a plumbing apprenticeship was sucessful but eventually laid off.
You DO NOT have to be a PR to start an Apprenticeship HOWEVER all of the government incentives and bonuses you will NOT be entitled to sadly (which is only fair I suppose). Good luck mucker.

Australia didn’t go through the same turmoil that the UK did in the mid 80s, when the mines, steelworks and car factories closed in rapid succession. For many guys there was no option but to take up a new trade, and thus mature age apprenticeships became popular.

Now the GFC has resulted in another round of guys having to retrain in the UK. The difficulties start when they migrate to Australia and that mature system isn’t in place.

Good point. The City and Guilds scheme in GB is a very flexible concept you pay your money do the course get the theory THEN get your experience. Here they rely on TAFE (for plumbing and others) and its always overbooked cronically understaffed not fit for pourpose AGAIN archaic. Moment you mention deregulaltion to private sector for training the UNIONS throw the dummy and soil themselves. Funny you mention the 80's guess where alot of the Union leaders after losing their jobs emergrated to.......

Not a pleasant world to live in at the momment, no eutopia in either country.
The problem is I gather it's much worse in blighty..

Especially with Union leaders Soiling themselves all the time......sorry your totally right even when fully qualified as a tradie in UK hardly any work at all sadly

People are forgetting that Skilled immigration is based on boosting the economy and not costing it (which is where apprenticeships would lay) No problem with doing an apprenticeship at mature age. I think their is a problem when someone has moved countries in order to take up one at a cost to the country.

Apprenticeships would cost tens of thousands of dollars per one completed.

To be fair, its worth reading back over the Ops earlier posts.

His first ever said “hi all im also in the same boat except im only a 3rd year apprentice electrician and i lost my its next to impossible to get another so im moving to OZ but i have to do this vet asses thing first i dont think it should be too hard i hope.”

So the inability to continue his apprenticeship started in the UK.

Secondly, his threads present a perfect picture of how NOT to migrate to Australia. The “she’ll be right mate, just as soon as I arrive it will all work out” attitude.

Obviously from this last thread it hasn’t, and frankly I am not surprised.

The OP received endless advice NOT to migrate. He ignored it all.

Same shit, different place.

Im sorry its happened mate, but not in any way surprised.

Reality is a bitch and sooner people get used to it the better, the OP was warned (see Mr O'Tool's post)

I take each opinion on its merits, doesn't matter who it is.

Precisely, this is what a discussion forum is for, providing frank and useful advice from people who know a bit of what the reality is like rather than some view formed from a combination of Neighbours, Home and Away and numerous shite 'escape the UK' programmes.

If we all went running for the cotton wool and cocoa everytime someone didn't like their (avoidable) situation then the forum would be a worse place for it.

If Australians found that foreigners were completing apprenticeships it would be a big deal in the media.

Bloody immigrants. They should be sent back to where they came from. Those coming over on spouse visas are the worst, they steal jobs and women!

This is presuming the women weren't destined for a life of lonely cat ownership anyway.

I'm just saying, sometimes it could actually be doing the country a favour by taking them off the market and thereby avoiding one more bunny boiler thrust upon an unsuspecting Aussie male.

This from the guy who has flounced off the forum 3 times because he had been upset by comments from people he didn't know who gave advice he didn't like?

JTL

It wasn't advice I didn't like, I won't be called a racist by some know-nothing mod in a peaked cap. In that case I reserve the right to f-off for a bit.

I can take all opinions, and have done frequently.

And it was twice, I can't remember the reason for the first.

Do please try to keep up.

Maybe someone told you to harden the **** up.


JTL