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Old Feb 3rd 2007, 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by fraser View Post
Baffling isn't it, having not even visited
i think everyone is like this at the start though. it is very natural , and takes a site like this where you can see other peoples experiences, to let you see a balanced view.. 'til you live there and make your own mind up

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Originally Posted by graciebluecat View Post
Thankyou i will have a good read...more info the better.my circumstances we as a family of 6 concsisting of 2 adults and 4 kids, have applied for the skilled visa (carpenter).....
Ive only skimmed through the last few days posts in this thread, but many people have told you to be more realistic. I gave you info on carpenters wages, info you were really happy with so I would also say this.

With a family of 6 I doubt australia will be cheaper for you. Here you pay for all sorts of things medical for kids, prescriptions, dental, braces, specialists........ Food is not cheap, housing is not cheap compared to the wages, only compared to a stack of UK equity (money you have made from your UK house and the strong UK currency when you convert it). You also pay for a lot of things education wise, aussies are cracking up at the mo, at what some state schools (supposidly free education) are demanding. Petrol is cheaper in aus, if your partners a chippie, its most likely he will work great distances which are considered normal here, we think nothing of sending our tradesmen to jobs 150klm away, they pay for the petrol, doing a 1000 klms a week is nothing at all. Plus I think I explained chippies wages are not regular its all contract to contract, Be prepared to compete with a lot of other licenced and experienced men for jobs.

You have 6 people in your family I would also cost up airfares, we recently had to go to UK twice in a year, for the 2 trips for just 4 of us cost $19,000, thats just airfares, cheapo airlines at that:

I think with a family your size it would be well worth checking if it is as fantatic as you think, but dont get sucked in by the big car/boat/house mode. Think what life will be like 6 months on in aussie dollars, when working in some godawful temperature, doing the same old house/kids/work routine but quite possibly on less money or with no family backup, thats when you know if you like australia or not.

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Old Feb 3rd 2007, 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl View Post
The highest percentage of brit's choose NSW.
Was intrigued by that, so went and looked it up in the 2001 census. Didn't get all the states, but the records showed that the number of people born in the UK living in oz by state (and who arrived in 2001) was:

NSW - 3246
WA - 1576
Queensland - 1615
Victoria 1494

Be very interested in finding out if those figures have moved at all - from what you read on these forums I'd always felt that Queensland seemed to be a much more popular end destination with the current crop of British immigrants.
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Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
Was intrigued by that, so went and looked it up in the 2001 census. Didn't get all the states, but the records showed that the number of people born in the UK living in oz by state (and who arrived in 2001) was:

NSW - 3246
WA - 1576
Queensland - 1615
Victoria 1494

Be very interested in finding out if those figures have moved at all - from what you read on these forums I'd always felt that Queensland seemed to be a much more popular end destination with the current crop of British immigrants.
Goodness, I actually agree with you for once Hutch. I would have thought that too, but apparently the pedulum is swinging again to Victoria, or so I read somewhere recently. If I find the article, I'll post it.
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Originally Posted by kporte View Post
i think everyone is like this at the start though. it is very natural , and takes a sight like this where you can see other peoples experiences, to let you see a balanced view.. 'til you live there and make your own mind up
I must say, I wasn't like that at all, but we had been to Australia afew times in the early 90's. I wasn't at all sure it was for me, but once the bug has bitten........
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Originally Posted by graciebluecat View Post
you know what ever !!!

it wasnt a post on here but on another post,i have looked up your user name and all the post you have evr loked at or written on,alot are posts to do with moving back to uk!!!!!...you havent said you dont like oz, but you are so negative about it to do with people moving, if they would have a better life there than here in uk good luck...

yes lots of brits move to oz all over, but isnt it 80 %(statistics) of british living in perth or am i just wrong yet again in your eyes.

maybe you should look to why i want to move then you would realise i woud have a better life for my kids there.than here in the uk and people like you try to put me off ....No i have nevr been to oz, but done enough research thankyou...

.and if i can live in a better area than i do. I live in a council area for gods sake its all i can afford here in expensive south of england,i be able to buy a house for less than the ones here have a better life for my kids...

..tell me why to so many brits move and they havent even been there, perhaps like me they choose to move for a better life.......wdu is a good programme to show different reasons for the move i would say alot would never make it and settle the ones who will seriously miss their family or had a better life in the uk,the family on the sydney show hairdreser had a beauitiful home here good business hair dressers , and they perhaps wouldnt have the same life there especially if she took on a employed position as a barber. they still picked oz.though....different lives create different experiences......my life would be better in oz thats that.
the % of population being british in perth is about 51% if you believe you will have a better life in Oz go for it but If I were you I would be a little less hasty to bag those of us that are here if you have pulled the posts of other posters I suggest you go over and read the threads there is a very big negative sid to Oz and if you refuse to look at it it will bite you in the arse I promise you .
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Originally Posted by toandfro View Post
the % of population being british in perth is about 51% if you believe you will have a better life in Oz go for it but If I were you I would be a little less hasty to bag those of us that are here if you have pulled the posts of other posters I suggest you go over and read the threads there is a very big negative sid to Oz and if you refuse to look at it it will bite you in the arse I promise you .
there is a high percentage but I really don't think its half the people here.
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wow - just watched Thursdays show around the rural Brisbane area ! To buy land costs around £80,000 however this is the bit that got me! In the UK I can't get a house built for less than £130,000 plus land! In Australia it would cost from £50,000 + land!

Food in this country has become so expensive.
Most food is much cheaper in the UK.

You wont build a house for $120,000 not if you want it to stand up anyway.

Land totally depends where you want to live, back of woop woop, yeah its cheap. A property near us sold this week, it was owner built from salvaged building materials 10 years ago, full of termites, it was on the low land and all the old neighbours around claim its had water through it in floods, I thought it was more blow it up than do it up. A snip at $760,000 Why? because it really is a couple of mins to the beach, shops, schools, uni etc. It all depends where you want to live.
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Originally Posted by jad n rich View Post
Ive only skimmed through the last few days posts in this thread, but many people have told you to be more realistic. I gave you info on carpenters wages, info you were really happy with so I would also say this.

With a family of 6 I doubt australia will be cheaper for you. Here you pay for all sorts of things medical for kids, prescriptions, dental, braces, specialists........ Food is not cheap, housing is not cheap compared to the wages, only compared to a stack of UK equity (money you have made from your UK house and the strong UK currency when you convert it). You also pay for a lot of things education wise, aussies are cracking up at the mo, at what some state schools (supposidly free education) are demanding. Petrol is cheaper in aus, if your partners a chippie, its most likely he will work great distances which are considered normal here, we think nothing of sending our tradesmen to jobs 150klm away, they pay for the petrol, doing a 1000 klms a week is nothing at all. Plus I think I explained chippies wages are not regular its all contract to contract, Be prepared to compete with a lot of other licenced and experienced men for jobs.

You have 6 people in your family I would also cost up airfares, we recently had to go to UK twice in a year, for the 2 trips for just 4 of us cost $19,000, thats just airfares, cheapo airlines at that:

I think with a family your size it would be well worth checking if it is as fantatic as you think, but dont get sucked in by the big car/boat/house mode. Think what life will be like 6 months on in aussie dollars, when working in some godawful temperature, doing the same old house/kids/work routine but quite possibly on less money or with no family backup, thats when you know if you like australia or not.
very nicely put
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Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl View Post
I too have read all my posts and have never tried to put anyone off coming here. I like it, just not enough. So sorry, not 'so negative' either. Been here over a decade now, been back to south east of England recently, most of my family are there. Love it!

Sorry again, but 80% of people living here in WA are NOT Brit's. The highest percentage of brit's choose NSW btw.

I hope for all your sakes that your lives will be better here in OZ, though I just cannot understand how anyone could possibly know that until they have lived here. You might hope that it will, but you can't possibly know that. I also hope that you don't go through some of the awful pangs of homesickness, lonliness and feelings of not belonging that some go through.

I didn't intend to make you feel bad or to try to turn you off in anyway whatsoever, I just wondered how you could come to the positive conclusion that you so obviously display, that life in Oz IS better.

Totally agree with your post St Georges Girl. Well put.
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there is a high percentage but I really don't think its half the people here.
Thanks NB the hands and the brain are not in cahoots today it should have read 51% of mirants in perth are english and about 10% of the population (if that). I was watching a documemtary a couple of weeks ago on the effects of migrants and the hardships they face came up with the figures
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Thanks NB the hands and the brain are not in cahoots today it should have read 51% of mirants in perth are english and about 10% of the population (if that). I was watching a documemtary a couple of weeks ago on the effects of migrants and the hardships they face came up with the figures
can i ask when you all left the uk however many years ago what was the deciding factor for going then?
why were you leaving and what in your life has changed thats made you decide to stay.
didnt most of you feel the way us lot in the uk are feeling we want to get off the roundabout of work bills work more bills and actually do a little living.
were going for the better quality of life the time we can spend together as a family, not the big house boat and car routine.
yes we all know its starting again and its good to hear there are positive and negative sides to going but at the end of the day its all down to individual circumstances and needs if you want it that badly you can make it work. by the way were a family of 8 and i know it wont be cheaper things will work out probably around the same in the end what you dont pay as much for one thing you will for another.
oh is a plumber gasfitter working 60 hours per week at least im working for bt yes both good wages but no quality of life its a choice isnt it not as good money but better quality of life which would appeal to you more?
im off to oz if i never try i will never know ive tried this way of life for the last 38 years it isnt going to get any better in uk believe me so now im willing to try another type of life and good luck to me i say
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At least I'm not going sydney.. I recon there's a 50% chance of seeing nadia changing her top on the manly ferry
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At least I'm not going sydney.. I recon there's a 50% chance of seeing nadia changing her top on the manly ferry



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As I said on an earlier thread for all it's faults I prefer the UK having spent 6 months holidaying in Oz in various places in 2005/6. However the climate and cheaper properties are 2 big factors in Oz's favour. I also sympathise with Gracie's situation with downward pressure on her husband's wages caused by immigration but don't forget the flip side is the upward pressure on UK property prices which would help yr position.

From the media Ozzie people always seemed an affable, easy-going, laid-back types (and they were in the main) who it would be easy to befriend but the friendships I made in Oz all tended to be Brits. I also missed English news/culture and always looked forward to Tuesdays and Wednesdays when the weekly Express and Telegraph were printed so I could keep up with events in the UK. It also has to be said that British tv is also superior to Oz.

As one of the elder children said on the wdu programme, there was nothing uniquely Australian that attracted him there. Wise words and in my case apart from the climate and property prices, what he said rung true.
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