This USA forum is harsh....
#1
This USA forum is harsh....
Hi people,
I used to post on BE prior to my move to Australia from the UK almost 8 years ago. Having separated and divorced from the ex some 3 years back, I met an American girl. We are now quite serious, so I’ve started poking around in the USA forums, just getting idea’s what my/our options are re visa’s etc....WOW! You guys are pretty harsh..!
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
I used to post on BE prior to my move to Australia from the UK almost 8 years ago. Having separated and divorced from the ex some 3 years back, I met an American girl. We are now quite serious, so I’ve started poking around in the USA forums, just getting idea’s what my/our options are re visa’s etc....WOW! You guys are pretty harsh..!
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
#2
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Re: This USA forum is harsh....
yeah, I have observed the same. Makes me scared to ask in case question is seen to be a stupid one which I should have tried harder to find out the answer to myself before I asked - yikes.
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Re: This USA forum is harsh....
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
And you presume to ask questions that you could so easily research yourself? How dare you post here!
#4
Re: This USA forum is harsh....
Well if it's about how can I move to Florida I went to Disney last year and we loved it and want to move there, then they should have started by ready the Wiki is plain to see and has all the information about who qualifies to get what visa. I think they just get a bit jaded by seeing the same question asked in a slightly different format over and over.
Would you prefer that the people on the visas section string them along and tell them it's easy or let them know the truth so they can go into it with eyes wide open, cause no one at the embassy will hold their hand and give them a refund once they have been scammed by a fake agency promising visas or paid for a visa that will be denied.
Would you prefer that the people on the visas section string them along and tell them it's easy or let them know the truth so they can go into it with eyes wide open, cause no one at the embassy will hold their hand and give them a refund once they have been scammed by a fake agency promising visas or paid for a visa that will be denied.
#5
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Re: This USA forum is harsh....
I used to post on BE prior to my move to Australia from the UK almost 8 years ago. Having separated and divorced from the ex some 3 years back, I met an American girl. We are now quite serious, so I’ve started poking around in the USA forums, just getting idea’s what my/our options are re visa’s etc....
Understand that simply by realizing that you need a visa you are already way ahead of a lot of people who want to move to the US. You are also way ahead from the perspective that (absent any complicating factors such as a criminal record or previous problems with US immigration) marriage to a US citizen is a pretty straightforward way of getting an immigrant visa.
#6
Misses Los Angeles
Joined: Dec 2010
Location: London
Posts: 436
Re: This USA forum is harsh....
....WOW! You guys are pretty harsh..!
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
People can call expensive embassy phonelines and get vague or bad advice; they can pay 'visa agents' for encouraging words and no actual visa. I don't have a problem with people coming here asking questions, even clueless questions that show no research, but the attitude they give is sometimes hard to take. They want a free, more accurate version of the embassy phoneline with all the fake good news of the visa agents, and, if they don't get that, they often a) get hostile, b) disappear forever, without any acknowledgment to people who've responded or c) start asking about how to do things illegally.
I've spent two years in Japan, and two in Germany, and am a member of separate expat forums for both countries. This forum is by far the most pleasant, and the only one I've made more than ten posts in. People here take the time to respond to vague or unresearched questions, even in situations where the OP has very unrealistic expectations.
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Re: This USA forum is harsh....
Hi people,
I used to post on BE prior to my move to Australia from the UK almost 8 years ago. Having separated and divorced from the ex some 3 years back, I met an American girl. We are now quite serious, so I’ve started poking around in the USA forums, just getting idea’s what my/our options are re visa’s etc....WOW! You guys are pretty harsh..!
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
I used to post on BE prior to my move to Australia from the UK almost 8 years ago. Having separated and divorced from the ex some 3 years back, I met an American girl. We are now quite serious, so I’ve started poking around in the USA forums, just getting idea’s what my/our options are re visa’s etc....WOW! You guys are pretty harsh..!
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
But on the flip side, there are some really awesome, patient, knowledgable, kind people here who have made my journey to the US a lot lot lot easier.
You just have to filter out the know it all, opinonated morons that lurk in the shadows, waiting to give out their snide comments!
Edit: If you want to see a really harsh forum, check out the Canada one! They are vicious to each other!
Last edited by ljaw2002uk; Oct 15th 2011 at 3:37 pm. Reason: Typo
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Re: This USA forum is harsh....
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735756
So how would you respond to the current dufus?
So how would you respond to the current dufus?
#10
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Re: This USA forum is harsh....
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735756
So how would you respond to the current dufus?
So how would you respond to the current dufus?
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#11
Misses Los Angeles
Joined: Dec 2010
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Re: This USA forum is harsh....
This guy already got a whole thread of people giving him advice about the J1, and taking his questions seriously. His response has been to start a new thread about working illegally, in a forum mostly populated by people who have gone through every cost and frustration of getting visas.
(And not just working illegally: undercutting legit job-seekers in a state with terrible unemployment by working for no wage, on holiday. Bonus points for including a complaint about coffee kiosk employees speaking Spanish.)
(And not just working illegally: undercutting legit job-seekers in a state with terrible unemployment by working for no wage, on holiday. Bonus points for including a complaint about coffee kiosk employees speaking Spanish.)
#12
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Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 48
Re: This USA forum is harsh....
I would tend to agree with the OP. When someone first approaches this forum, the volume of previous posts is staggering, and I suspect at some point the thought "I will just jump in and ask my question, rather than plough through thousands of earlier posts" crosses their minds.
It is very offputting to find posters belittling newbies wishes and desires to move to the USA, espcially when, from their avatars they themselves have made the move. You've done it, you've made the jump, why go to such lengths to put someone else off?
By all means point out the pitfalls, obstacles and drawbacks, but don't, please, sneer at someone who wants to persue their dream -just as you did.
It is very offputting to find posters belittling newbies wishes and desires to move to the USA, espcially when, from their avatars they themselves have made the move. You've done it, you've made the jump, why go to such lengths to put someone else off?
By all means point out the pitfalls, obstacles and drawbacks, but don't, please, sneer at someone who wants to persue their dream -just as you did.
#13
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Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 89
Re: This USA forum is harsh....
Hi people,
I used to post on BE prior to my move to Australia from the UK almost 8 years ago. Having separated and divorced from the ex some 3 years back, I met an American girl. We are now quite serious, so I’ve started poking around in the USA forums, just getting idea’s what my/our options are re visa’s etc....WOW! You guys are pretty harsh..!
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
I used to post on BE prior to my move to Australia from the UK almost 8 years ago. Having separated and divorced from the ex some 3 years back, I met an American girl. We are now quite serious, so I’ve started poking around in the USA forums, just getting idea’s what my/our options are re visa’s etc....WOW! You guys are pretty harsh..!
I’ve really only read a few post, but already I see that some of these guys get hit damn hard (verbally beaten-up in fact) for asking what are apparently pretty stupid/un-researched/un-realistic/pipe-dream type questions. Just an observation. Now I have some questions myself. Dare I ask...?
#14
Re: This USA forum is harsh....
Oh, Boo-Hoo!
The answer to their questions can usually be found by a quick "Google." The rules for Immigration are clearly defined and cannot be skated around in a legal manner.
Sometimes, you just have to be cruel to be kind.
The name of this Forum is "British Expats" as opposed to "British Expat Wannabees." Help is there for those people going through a legitimate process, but, real advice is there for those who just have a pipedream.
Jim.
The answer to their questions can usually be found by a quick "Google." The rules for Immigration are clearly defined and cannot be skated around in a legal manner.
Sometimes, you just have to be cruel to be kind.
The name of this Forum is "British Expats" as opposed to "British Expat Wannabees." Help is there for those people going through a legitimate process, but, real advice is there for those who just have a pipedream.
Jim.
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Location: North Charleston, SC
Posts: 194
Re: This USA forum is harsh....
jg2802: I don't think you even realize that you are the "dufus" referred to in the above posts. It takes all kinds I guess. Run along and let the rest of us enjoy our Sunday. Thank you.
This guy already got a whole thread of people giving him advice about the J1, and taking his questions seriously. His response has been to start a new thread about working illegally, in a forum mostly populated by people who have gone through every cost and frustration of getting visas.
(And not just working illegally: undercutting legit job-seekers in a state with terrible unemployment by working for no wage, on holiday. Bonus points for including a complaint about coffee kiosk employees speaking Spanish.)
(And not just working illegally: undercutting legit job-seekers in a state with terrible unemployment by working for no wage, on holiday. Bonus points for including a complaint about coffee kiosk employees speaking Spanish.)