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#166
My DH's family name has something to do with a woodpecker.
#167
You made me laugh with your DH family name's translation.
#172
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You're just letting your nationalistic hackles blind you to the reality. Like it or not, Iraq was largely a US operation, which was initially won and will be ultimately lost thanks to American (mis)management. While I would surely love to share the glory and the blame with the coalition, there isn't all that much glory and I'd feel a bit guilty about parceling out the blame, given the circumstances.
That doesn't change the fact that Iraq was a military victory. The Iraqi military was destroyed, the leadership eliminated and the capital captured, all classic symbols of a military victory. The only problem was that this wasn't enough to create a sustainable political win. You should be happy that Gordon Brown will be able to retreat from the steaming pile with the UK's prestige relatively unscathed, unlike Bush's successor, whoever that may be.
#174
There are 60 Rommels and 2 Himmlers in the Berlin phone book. No Hitlers, though.
You're comedy. The Korean war stalemates with a UN force that is only half American, and this becomes an American defeat, yet the Iraq War, which had about 90% of its troop strength comprised of US forces, is an Allied win and a US loss simultaneously?
You're just letting your nationalistic hackles blind you to the reality. Like it or not, Iraq was largely a US operation, which was initially won and will be ultimately lost thanks to American (mis)management. While I would surely love to share the glory and the blame with the coalition, there isn't all that much glory and I'd feel a bit guilty about parceling out the blame, given the circumstances.
That doesn't change the fact that Iraq was a military victory. The Iraqi military was destroyed, the leadership eliminated and the capital captured, all classic symbols of a military victory. The only problem was that this wasn't enough to create a sustainable political win. You should be happy that Gordon Brown will be able to retreat from the steaming pile with the UK's prestige relatively unscathed, unlike Bush's successor, whoever that may be.
You're comedy. The Korean war stalemates with a UN force that is only half American, and this becomes an American defeat, yet the Iraq War, which had about 90% of its troop strength comprised of US forces, is an Allied win and a US loss simultaneously?
You're just letting your nationalistic hackles blind you to the reality. Like it or not, Iraq was largely a US operation, which was initially won and will be ultimately lost thanks to American (mis)management. While I would surely love to share the glory and the blame with the coalition, there isn't all that much glory and I'd feel a bit guilty about parceling out the blame, given the circumstances.
That doesn't change the fact that Iraq was a military victory. The Iraqi military was destroyed, the leadership eliminated and the capital captured, all classic symbols of a military victory. The only problem was that this wasn't enough to create a sustainable political win. You should be happy that Gordon Brown will be able to retreat from the steaming pile with the UK's prestige relatively unscathed, unlike Bush's successor, whoever that may be.
#175
When I first got here, we did have some fun disputes with the locals, on who won the war, but they were good natured. If anyone got serious, I asked them if they were just out to score cheap points or if they wanted to discuss the facts and go on from there.
#177
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So, why DO the Americans think they alone won the war? Is this taught to them at school or what?
Rob
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#178
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My earlier comment, despite its pithiness, was actually accurate. Most Americans don't know much about the UK, so they're left with the war, bad food, the Royals, and bad teeth for joke material. Since they're too polite to mock you for your orthodontia, you're stuck with the other three. Chin up.
#179
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I think that some of us learned to take the piss out of our British cousins. However, not all said cousins have figured out how to take a joke.
My earlier comment, despite its pithiness, was actually accurate. Most Americans don't know much about the UK, so they're left with the war, bad food, the Royals, and bad teeth for joke material. Since they're too polite to mock you for your orthodontia, you're stuck with the other three. Chin up.
My earlier comment, despite its pithiness, was actually accurate. Most Americans don't know much about the UK, so they're left with the war, bad food, the Royals, and bad teeth for joke material. Since they're too polite to mock you for your orthodontia, you're stuck with the other three. Chin up.
#180
perhaps not directly, more by omission. Example: on the wall of my office I have a National Geographic map of Great Britain and Ireland. Down at the bottom of the map a section of Normandy is visible, and the National Geographic cartographers have labeled the D-Day beaches on it. Except they've only labeled the beaches where Americans landed (Utah and Omaha): the beaches assaulted by British and Canadian troops (Gold, Sword, Juno) are mysteriously absent. That's the kind of thing that fosters ignorance and winds British people up.




Dont you think people with Surnames like Himmler & Rommel changed there names after the War ? I mean I've never heard either of them name's now days.
