Originally Posted by moneypenny20

At the beginning of COVID we in Australia had some temp visa holders having to leave the country immediately regardless of how long they'd been here, this included having to leave pets and furniture behind. Everyone I spoke to in that exact position weren't even angry, they were simply very disappointed. To be angry about being 'trapped' in a country where you've got a job and a home and a decent life whilst millions around the world are dying/have died/have serious lifelong disabilities due to catching COVID seems a bit unnecessary to me. We're still in the middle of a ****ing pandemic for christ's sake. I haven't hugged my daughter since April 2018 and have no idea when I'll be able to do that again but I have Whatsapp and there's zero point in getting angry about how governments are dealing with something they've never had to deal with before.

Honestly, breathe the air and be grateful for the internet and science.

Originally Posted by karenkaren1

semantics. we both own the business and jointly decided which visas would be best....but good work detective

Originally Posted by tht

It is not semantics. Ownership is not a criteria for an L1a. The only reason you were able to get an L2 was an approved L1 and your marriage certificate. Now I know nothing about your involvement in the business, you could have done 50/50 before expanding to the US. You may well be a Director of the UK business and or a Director or partner of the US Corp or LLC, and could have been eligible for an L1a yourself. But if you choose an L2 you obviously decided the ease/cost saving of that visa was worth more to you than but being able to do any work for the business for a few months until you got an EAD (which also has the benefit if you being able to work for almost any US employer, vs the L which restricts you). So it seems like your day to day involvement was not critical. But it seems strange to call out others who came based on marriage when you did as well.

Originally Posted by moneypenny20

At the beginning of COVID we in Australia had some temp visa holders having to leave the country immediately regardless of how long they'd been here, this included having to leave pets and furniture behind. Everyone I spoke to in that exact position weren't even angry, they were simply very disappointed. To be angry about being 'trapped' in a country where you've got a job and a home and a decent life whilst millions around the world are dying/have died/have serious lifelong disabilities due to catching COVID seems a bit unnecessary to me. We're still in the middle of a ****ing pandemic for christ's sake. I haven't hugged my daughter since April 2018 and have no idea when I'll be able to do that again but I have Whatsapp and there's zero point in getting angry about how governments are dealing with something they've never had to deal with before.

Honestly, breathe the air and be grateful for the internet and science.

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse

It's all here

I see there's a hurricane in your neck of the woods, I hope you and everyone there gets through it ok xx

Originally Posted by Hiro11

I'm also surprised at the lack of anger... at people who STILL refuse to get vaccinated here in the US.

The proof is incontrovertible. As one example, my county maintains a very easy to understand dashboard that breaks out cases and mortality by vaccination status (it's about 3/4 of the way down the page):
https://www.dupagehealth.org/610/DuP...D-19-Dashboard

The lesson: vaccines reduce the risk of covid to background noise for almost everyone. If you're vaccinated, you have a (very) slight risk of testing positive for Covid. If you're vaccinated and you have underlying medical risk factors, you have about as much risk of becoming seriously ill as you would from something like the flu. If you are both vaccinated AND have no underlying medical risk factors, you have almost literally ZERO chance of becoming seriously ill.

The same results have been found all over the world. This is FANTASTIC news. Given this type of evidence, I've concluded that un-vaccinated people who don't have a health risk and have ready access to vaccines (which is the vast, vast majority of people over 12 in the US currently) are stupid, selfish asses. I agree with Biden on this point: my patience is at an end. Compare the experience in my IL county or my brother's MA county (both with vaccination rates approaching 80%) and compare them the the current experience my sister is seeing in her Tennessee county (vaccination rates in the mid 40% range). Covid is essentially defeated here and it's raging in TN. What is wrong with people?

Originally Posted by BenK91

My mum is flying out to visit next Friday, everything we have read says immediate family (i.e. the parent of a US Citizen) is able to visit. She has her proof of vaccination, and Covid tests booked prior to travel each way.

To be quite frank I really do not care about the health of those who *choose* to be unvaccinated, I have done my civic duty (along with millions of others) in doing what was asked of me, and that was to receive two doses of a vaccine I didn't particularly want, but did anyway.

Originally Posted by Sugarmooma

Originally Posted by Boiler

l thought the USC child had to be a minor?

Originally Posted by BenK91

If that's the case it hasn't been well written, this is the proclamation as it stands right now: The travel restriction does not apply to:

• U.S. citizens.
• Legal permanent residents (LPRs).
• Most immediate family members of U.S. citizens.
• Other individuals who are identified in the proclamation.

For information on current COVID testing requirements for travel to the United States from the United Kingdom please see the CDC website. The Presidential Proclamation continues to apply to travelers from the United Kingdom even with a negative COVID test.

Originally Posted by tht

why? Because they used family instead of relative? Or because “most” could let them make further exclusions It’s defined by USCIS:

Originally Posted by lansbury

Give me grace to accept
the things that cannot be changed,

Courage to change the things
which should be changed,

and the patience to accept the COVID restrictions without whining because I can't do as I please.