TexanScot

Case in point right here.

BEVS

Yes. The poster illustrated your words exactly.

karenkaren1

and so it completely baffles me why there is the pressure to vaccinate healthy kids. crazy times indeed

BristolUK

There are numerous studies all over that have shown that fully vaccinated people, when they are infected, are infectious for a shorter period than the unvaccinated and that when transmitting the virus it is a much lower covid load.

See, that is what TexanScot is referring to when saying people don't always understand stuff and describes your incorrect claim that the vaccines have zero effect in transmission as a case in point.

tht

I think the idea is to keep them out of the ICU / from dying:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kids-sick-covid-are-filling-children-s-hospitals-areas-seeing-n1276238

In my experience all vaccines are given to health people.. that’s how they work…

And you will need a bunch of them if you plan to get your green card: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...orms/i-693.pdf

TexanScot

I believe the delta variant is significant in that IF vaccinated people become infected their viral load is as high as the unvaccinated, but the underlying point still holds in that they are still significantly less likely to become infected in the first place.

There’s also the oft under-appreciated fact that your symptoms are probably going to be a lot milder if you’re vaccinated, so if you DO contract the virus and your viral load IS higher then you’re still less likely to transmit the virus; you won’t be coughing and spluttering as much as you would be if you were unvaccinated.

So you’re less likely to catch it, less likely to pass it on, and if you ARE unlucky enough to catch it then you probably won’t end up in the ICU or the morgue.

Gosh, they’ll even be telling us that the vaccines are free next…

karenkaren1

[QUOTE=tht;13050984]I think the idea is to keep them out of the ICU / from dying:

'healthy' kids are neither in ICU or dying tho.... my neighbor works at a children's hospital in Miami, she has never seen a pediatric covid hospitalization to date that doesn't have pre-existing illness and/or obesity

karenkaren1

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ted/ar-AAMLwaK

TexanScot

As I said, we’re talking about a reduction in your likelihood of becoming infected in the first place, not your viral load or your likelihood of transmitting it if you’re unlucky enough to become infected.

Two closely related but very different things.

if you want to argue the science then you need to understand the difference.

tht

I thought you were here on an L2? That’s just a derivative visa based on being a dependent, so basically the same thing… you get a visa by virtue of being married to the L1..

karenkaren1

semantics. we both own the business and jointly decided which visas would be best....but good work detective

spouse of scouse

Question: Where is the anger?

Answer: Found it, a whole thread full of it!

scrubbedexpat097

It has a bit of everything really. From Anger to sarcasm to medical experts and political experts. You know the usual..

spouse of scouse

It's all here

I see there's a hurricane in your neck of the woods, I hope you and everyone there gets through it ok xx

BristolUK

One variant where there may be a similar load passed on by someone far less likely to get it in the first place and still less likely to pass it on because they are infectious for a shorter period.

"Case in point"

But this is, of course, why people have been promoting caution while vaccinated as opposed to discouraging the use of vaccines.