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Old May 12th 2020, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
Yes. At last it seems as though justice is being determinedly pursued for Harry Dunn and his family. I don't know how Anne Sacoolas has been able to carry on with her life since the incident. I've always thought the best thing she could have done for herself and Harry's family was to face up to it, take whatever penalty the court imposed, and let everyone get on with their lives. Or in the case of Harry's family, move forward with their lives as best they can after losing their son.
She can carry on either because she is a psychopath or because she is ordered to do so by the "powers that be" if you want to call them that. Because she for the want of the better term has the goods on the government. They are never going to risk anything about her CIA stuff being brought up in a court or ever risk her revealing what is really going on at that base or have stuff come out about their activities in this country that don't want to come out.
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Old May 12th 2020, 12:02 pm
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The decision is final.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-52630089

So I would say we now no longer allow Americans to the enter the UK and close their embassy until she is turned over. Though that is unlikely to happen. We should also ban her kids from ever visiting the UK so there is at least some lasting consequences to her beyond being stuck in her own country.

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Old May 12th 2020, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by MartynK
Having to remain in the US isn't much of a prison sentence...

I wonder how many Brits would volunteer to return and 'face the music' in similar circumstances, if their own government had given them a get out of jail free card? Not many, I think.
It may not be much of a prison sentence, but as has been said previously in this thread, it's going to likely impact her husband's career postings abroad unless he's willing to be posted abroad for months without his wife.

I suspect most Brits wouldn't have a choice but to return to 'face the music', but it's not that simple due to her 'diplomatic immunity'.
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I am sure several times a year the UK Forces send troops and equipment over to the US on exercises etc. Insert an SAS squad pretending to be regular troops as part of the exercise. They then snatch the wife from her home/place of work or on her weekly grocery shop and whisk her back to the UK. Mmmm has the makings of a book or movie?
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Old May 12th 2020, 12:50 pm
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Default Re: US Diplomat's wife kills biker in UK then flees country :(

Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
It may not be much of a prison sentence, but as has been said previously in this thread, it's going to likely impact her husband's career postings abroad unless he's willing to be posted abroad for months without his wife.

I suspect most Brits wouldn't have a choice but to return to 'face the music', but it's not that simple due to her 'diplomatic immunity'.
Is her husband not possibly guilty of conspiracy to pervert/attempting to pervert the course of justice or assisting and offender accessory after the fact in American money?. So maybe a red letter on him as well?
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Originally Posted by andyrebell
Is her husband not possibly guilty of conspiracy to pervert/attempting to pervert the course of justice or assisting and offender accessory after the fact in American money?. So maybe a red letter on him as well?
No, he’s not.
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
I am sure several times a year the UK Forces send troops and equipment over to the US on exercises etc. Insert an SAS squad pretending to be regular troops as part of the exercise. They then snatch the wife from her home/place of work or on her weekly grocery shop and whisk her back to the UK. Mmmm has the makings of a book or movie?
Or we could just do a drone strike.

Get real. Can you imagine if one SAS solider was killed during the raid and left behind or it turned into a hostage situation/armed siege with deaths. UK Government then has 2 choices. 1 either admit they are acting in official capacity and the breaches of international law that come with that I am sure. 2 brand them as rouge British army on leave who committed countless crimes murder, terrorism god knows what . Actions which would probably see the UK booted of the visa waiver program and destroy the so called special relationship forever because we won't support the yanks after that. UK government would never risk that.

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Originally Posted by BritInParis
No, he’s not.
Might work as leverage though but it probably wouldn't. And hang on a minute her husband got her out of the country didn't he?. Under english law if he did that he could be you know without the immunity. But hey that red letter would be further consequences of his wifes actions.
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Originally Posted by andyrebell
Might work as leverage though but it probably wouldn't. And hang on a minute her husband got her out of the country didn't he?. Under english law if he did that he could be you know without the immunity. But hey that red letter would be further consequences of his wifes actions.
He didn’t ‘get her out of the country’ - she claimed diplomatic immunity and HMG let her go. And you can’t use an Interpol Red Notice for political purposes which is what slapping one on her husband would be.

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Default Re: US Diplomat's wife kills biker in UK then flees country :(

Originally Posted by andyrebell
Or we could just do a drone strike.

Get real. Can you imagine if one SAS solider was killed during the raid and left behind or it turned into a hostage situation/armed siege with deaths. UK Government then has 2 choices. 1 either admit they are acting in official capacity and the breaches of international law that come with that I am sure. 2 brand them as rouge British army on leave who committed countless crimes murder, terrorism god knows what . Actions which would probably see the UK booted of the visa waiver program and destroy the so called special relationship forever because we won't support the yanks after that. UK government would never risk that.
Guess you failed the introduction class as to what sarcasm means.
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Originally Posted by lansbury
Paper exercise as long as she doesn't leave the United States.
Unless they put her into Witness Protection? A move which with the change of identity? would nullify the red letter to a certain extent? Allowing for resumption of CIA Careers without problem?
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Originally Posted by andyrebell
Unless they put her into Witness Protection? A move which with the change of identity? would nullify the red letter to a certain extent? Allowing for resumption of CIA Careers without problem?
I don't think that's what the witness protection program's for andy
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Originally Posted by caretaker
Well, a symbolic gesture is better than none. If it keeps her from mowing down anyone else in a host country it does a little good.
More like a PR stunt by HM Government to appease the family, and the US. Most people don't get the courtesy of being told they are the subject of a Red Notice, they find out when they travel somewhere. I had a couple of nice arrests at Heathrow that way.
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I had a couple of nice arrests at Heathrow that way.
Presumably you were the arresting officer rather than the detainee?
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
I don't think that's what the witness protection program's for andy
It is for whatever they want it for. You are dealing with spies here and they can do whatever the hell they want to and apparently she is a more high ranking in that kind of thing than he is They will change her identity if it suits their needs to get round that red letter it is what they do.

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