andyrebell

Do you think that will bother her? Americans don't need to go overseas they have everything they need right in that country. Skiing, Natural Beauty thousands of miles of beaches and culture of all countries existing as one.

Nutmegger

Then why do any Americans ever go abroad?

materialcontroller

As expected:

Harry Dunn: Anne Sacoolas extradition request rejected by US

Mic1

Typical yanks......... One rule for us and one rule for everyone else. Bloody Disgusted.

andyrebell

We should close the american embassy down and not allow it to reopen until she is handed over or even go so far as to no longer americans to enter the UK.

DaveLovesDee

I'm glad you thought that through first.... I was worried you were going to suggest something ridiculously over-the-top.

Closing an embassy is one of the last steps in breaking diplomatic relations with another country. There are steps that could be taken which are far less drastic, but still not appropriate as sanctions in this case. And I suspect the appropriate diplomatic responses have already been made, or will be.

civilservant

Woow there horsey horse!

We have far too deep relations with the US to even consider such an unfriendly act - not to mention that we are going to want things out of them during the next year.

The UK should of course register it's displeasure, and take whatever diplomatic positions it thinks is appropriate, but doing what you suggest would result in serious economic damage and, frankly, isn't worth it. We are talking about one persons actions, not a whole country, after all.

tom169

I have no idea who andyrebell is, but like most posts on BE, I assumed sarcasm...

PetrifiedExPat

The UK should wall itself off and have nothing to do with the outside world. Oh hang on..

caretaker

This is what I thought until just now after reading a bit about the Interpol Red Notice procedure. While it would seem to be a softer response than suspending diplomatic relations (unthinkable), it's still very problematic because the US not only is an ally, but a member of Interpol. Who has to apply to Interpol for the Red Notice (Ministry of Justice? Scotland Yard?), and what would Trump do in response? If I was writing the script I'd have the news break about 2 o'clock Washington time when he's up tweeting.

BritInParis

The US would simply ignore it. A Red Notice only requests that member states arrest the person named pending extradition proceedings. As Dave says, it would restrict Mrs Sacoolas’ international movements as she couldn’t be certain that any given country would not arrest her upon arrival as a result.

Rete

I wouldn't have run in the first place. I do have a keen sense of honor and responsibility. If prison were the outcome, then I would have to do it. But turning yourself in, going to trial, and with a verdict of accidential manslaughter (which is possible), there might not be anything more than community time involved.

caretaker

They've already denied extradition so it's a no-brainer they don't want to hand her over, but a Red Notice is a pretty pointed diplomatic insult (to learn the difference between that and a warrant, and the variation in compliance by member nations, please search) and since it's already international news and an election year, I doubt they would or could simply ignore it now, even though they won't extradite. Because she isn't the international jewel thief or terrorist or deposed dictator or cartel boss that you'd expect to be on the list, but a housewife, the story has legs. She's an intelligence officer's wife and I can't see the US government wanting to have that hanging over one of their agents. They could have a closed hearing/inquest in the US with a rep of the UK Ambassador in attendance and review some carefully vetted evidence, conclude with a symbolic apology, declare the case closed and hope it goes away. No matter what the outcome is, it's probably time for everyone to examine what their rules of diplomatic immunity are and decide if they need updating.

markonline1

I think closing the embassy down in London is a tad on the extreme side, but I think we should be a little more selective in who we send over there. Remember the case of the old fella a few years back who sold some machinery to Iran. He hadn’t even broken U.K. law and we still extradited him. Unless it’s a serious case, I’d be telling the US that their request has been denied rather more frequently.
As a motorcyclist myslef, yes, this was clearly a tragic accident, but the whole thing utterly stinks!

scrubbedexpat091

Not many countries waive immunity do they?

Would the UK waive immunity if the roles were reversed?