fakey

Yeah ? What 'don't I get' ?
Life's not fair ?
Boo hoo.

anotherlimey

You don't actually know what they want.

fakey

Who is 'they' ?
Black lives matter ?
As far as I'm aware, they want a reduction in police violence towards black people. No ?

scrubbedexpat099

No

fakey

Ok then, what do they want

Philk

It's right there as the #1 misconception about their movement on their own website

fakey

Have you read it ?
'Black people are not inherently more violent or more prone to crime than other groups.'
Black males make up 6% of the population yet commit approximately 74 % of all murders. So obviously the above 'black lives matter' statement is patently untrue & therefore meaningless.
They say they wish to change 'the system that leads to violence'. Really ? Which system is this ? The same system that all ethnic groups in America live under but which (allegedly) produces massively disproportionate levels of violence among black people relative to all other groups ?
If 'the system' is the problem, why aren't there equally high levels of violence among hispanics, asians, jews, muslims etc ?
Obviously there are racial disparities, economic inequalities & racial bias in America (as there are in all multi-ethnic countries) but liberals patronisingly insist on ignoring reality & absolving the black community of all responsibility.
Several of the most recent police shootings of blacks seem like cut & dried examples of (very) excessive force. But several were of armed career criminals shot by police while resisting arrest. Why is there no honesty, nuance or complexity in the black lives matter / liberal take on these issues ?

anotherlimey

Or to be treated the same way as everyone else.

Nothing to do with black on black crime I'm afraid.

fakey

As 300 whites were killed by police last year also, I guess black people are treated the same as everyone else - therefore it's not purely a racial issue, except in the simplistic minds of black lives matter & their supporters.

Anyway, whatever- you & black lives matter can carry on killing police officers, defending the rights of armed paedophiles to resist arrest & shutting down the interstate in your quest for absolute racial equality, the rest of us are too busy trying to earn a living to really care.

mrken30

Another anti police story. The Police definitely are not respected like they are in other cultures.

Sheriff: Deputies asked to stop dining at Washington restaurant | KGW.com

But some police here are certainly good shots

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/jeffer.../273541551?c=a

anotherlimey

Yawn. Sure, anyone concerned is supporting killing of cops.

Take your trolling elsewhere.

fakey

If you've got nothing useful to say, then maybe you should keep out of it. You can yawn & call it trolling as much as you like. But what you can't do is make any coherent meaningful argument in support of black lives matter and their asinine posturing beyond the standard one dimensional banalities & evasions that their 'movement' is based on.
It doesn't matter whether 'you support them' - their tactics, rhetoric & attitude led inevitably to what happened in Dallas. It has also contributed to police largely withdrawing from Baltimore post Freddie Gray, leading to the deadliest year there on record & the deaths of scores more people. But Black Lives Matter eh.
And after you, blm & the rest of the social justice warriors have lost interest & moved on to playing pokemon or whatever else is the next latest fad, lone cops will still be risking their lives every day going up against potentially armed scumbags for $35,000 a year.

anotherlimey

More blah blah. You've still not managed to comprehend what the BLM movement is asking for.

You're just throwing around accusations saying anyone supporting BLM, or their cause, also supports killing police. Way to go.

Make way for the adults.

Leslie

Source of these numbers?

fakey

Blah blah blah all you are doing is throwing around piss poor attempts at being insulting without any actual facts or argument that could be considered meaningful. I've given you several opportunities to explain 'what I don't get' & so far you haven't been able to do so. Not that I'm that interested.
In terms of what blm are asking for, it's not exactly a secret - (greater police accountability, reduction in violence, improved professionalism etc ?)- on the surface it is probably entirely reasonable. But in practice will it make much significant difference ? I doubt it. Most of the police shootings are ambiguous events involving split second decisions in lethally dangerous situations. Maybe the solution is for the police to just withdraw from black communities altogether

Even if you eradicated all police shootings it wouldn't even begin to scratch the surface of the violence that blacks are both victims and cause of & meanwhile 74 % of black children would still be growing up in fatherless poverty. Deny it all you like but those are the facts & they largely undermine blm
But it's so much easier and satisfying to point the finger & blame 'the system', the police, whitey eh
If you don't have any meaningful response to this post, then don't bother replying, because it is getting tedious