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The term seems to be used commonly enough, both as a badge of pride by those who self-identify as liberal, and as an object of derision by those on the right. It is pretty much an antonym of "conservative" which fills a very similar mirror-image role as a badge of pride/ object of derision.

Here is a brief article on the topic, with a link to a lost of some prominent examples.

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I just looked at the lengthy Wikipedia article titled Gun Politics in the United States. There seem to be a lot of groups advocating for gun ownership rights, but there don't seem to be any groups advocating that guns should be banned? I'm just wondering if the folks who want to ban private ownership of firearms are simply a figment of the imagination of NRA and their ilk?

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I don't even know what a liberal anti gun nut is supposed to be.

Perpetuating such labels creates a false divide in the discussion when it is in everyone's interest - the country as a whole - to stop the slaughter and stop the mass incarceration.

Surely all of us could talk about and work towards that.

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There was a thread on it, Brady Campaign for one.

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You know Milwaukie, especially our mayor, well then. :lol:

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You could start by reading this thread.

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I don't think anyone influential really is. The only time I ever see it is private citizens crying out for gun bans. Usually (in my experiences on social media, et cetera) it's a bunch of my acquaintances back in the UK, who don't even live here ...

Occasionally you'll get the 'voice of the people' type who manages to make themselves heard on a national level calling for a ban, but I'm hard pressed to think of any policy makers who do this.

But I avoid the news as much as I can (too politicized for my liking), so I'm not the most reliable source here.

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Hmm.. that seems to be an article about the media. Really nothing to do with some imagined connection between political leanings and opinions on gun ownership rights.

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You might want to do the same thing yourself. Not one person that I can recall in this thread has come out and said guns should be banned. Plenty of people have said we have to wise up and get smart about guns, but at the end of the day, the hunter, the collector and the paranoid teabagger all get to keep their guns.

Not liking guns, not caring whether someone is allowed to have a gun and not liking the idea that kids can be shot dead in the street are just points of view, none of which in any way equal a call for disarmament.

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Not even remotely true. The Brady Campaign is for gun control, but doesn't seek to ban private ownership of firearms.

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Well this is part of the problem, The Brady Campaign aren't trying to ban guns.

About Brady | Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

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So still waiting here, can anyone list folks (private citizens, "liberals", politicians) who want to ban private ownership of firearms?

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Nor are such views in any way nutty.

I live in a pretty tame Chicago suburb. My son was coming back on the bus from a sports meet the other evening - not late, about 7pm - and he texted me to come and pick him up from a more distant bus stop because there had been a shooting near the stop by his school, with the shooter (s) still at large and possibly nearby, so their coach had told them not to get off by the school.

I think about it every day my son goes to school, despite the school's large security force and "lock down" procedures. :blink: Again, this is in a tame suburb.

This status is not "normal" but large numbers of people seem to accept it . That is why the terms of the discussion need changing and slinging epithets around will only polarize more and contribute to the national failure to address it.

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Chicago, of course, has it's own problems, though in suburbs considerably less tame than the one you live in, you only have to catch a morning news broadcast to see how messed up it can be there.

Chicago is also an indication of how pointless a localized gun ban is as well - someone can just buy a weapon in the suburbs, downstate or in Indiana or Wisconsin and bring it in.