SultanOfSwing

We have lots of lakes. It's not the same thing, but it gets you close. No mountains though in bloody Flatlandia.

dc koop

Lakes are a good substitute. When I lived in Montreal there were regular weekend trips across the border to Lake Champlain and Lake George, both very large lakes and Lake Champlain even has a beach.

My buddy, also English, who lives in Dallas never happy until we take him on a drive up through the San Gabriels but that's after he's been taken for a day trip to Redondo or Santa Monica beach

SultanOfSwing

The lakes are nice. It does seem that proximity to water is more important than the salinity. Though I will admit the idea of living somewhere like New Mexico fascinates me.

I do miss the mountains though, or at least some kind of noticeable topography, which is probably why I enjoy visiting Wisconsin when we go there. When I went to California, the Sierras kicked my arse. I'd flown over the Rockies a few times, but I'd never seen proper big mountains up close before. I was blown away.

Owen778

I used to work in Slough, of "Come friendly bombs..." and The Office fame. The best thing I could say about it was that it was "easy to get out of". I was very pleased when I moved to a new company, though that was for other reasons too.

SultanOfSwing

If you had a David Brent style boss, that would make it even better ...

vikingsail

Thank you Sultan I have been searching for a visual of how the song makes me feel at first. Sadly, it then always seems to grow on me, love the descriptions.

Yes 'Nebraska by the Sea' today we have the Trump visiting us!

Owen778

I'm not sure "better" is the word I'd have used. My boss there was thoroughly mediocre at managing, and in fact most of the things he turned his hand to.

SultanOfSwing

I'd still dislike it irrespective of how cheesy the lyrics are. Not much of a fan of country music myself.

Glad to help on the visuals though

So he was like David Brent, then ...

johnwoo

Not really. "Nebraska by the Sea" Is an oblique reference, that can be interpreted two ways.

SultanOfSwing

It gets more confusing, I googled where Trump is visiting today and it came up with Billings, Montana. Montana is no more by the sea than Nebraska is

themadpooper

If you're unhappy here you're probably doing it wrong - there's something in America for everyone, countryside, city, snow, sun, even desert. There's no other country on earth quite like America, that's equally as accessible, equally as welcoming, equally as free for want of a better word. No, Canada is not like America before anyone pipes up about it, it's a shitty version of America that people move to because it's easier to emigrate there. No, Italy or Spain or Germany are not like America, not even close. No, Singapore or Australia are not like America, not even close. America

mrken30

I remember my first time flying over the cascades at 10,000 ft in a little cessna 150

SultanOfSwing

Meh, there's nothing special about America. There's nothing special about anywhere. It's all here by random chance and it'll all be gone in a few million years.

No sense wasting time on worrying about who's the best when there's a whole world that is the sum of its parts out there to be explored.

Also, have you actually been to Canada? Parts of it reminded me almost exactly of Wisconsin. Other parts look like the UK ****ed the US and out popped a bastard child.

That sounds like the way to do it.

dc koop

Yeah well while I agree that America is scenically wonderful in places I would recommend a drive along Canada One from Vancouver to Banff through the Rockies. The Canadians also speak English quite well and are known to be welcoming even to those Americans who think that Canada is the 51st State

dc koop

Wonderful view from the top of Pikes Peak, Colorado Springs. 14,000 feet above sea level On a clear day it's said one can see five States and it was the inspiration for the song "America the beautiful" which IMO could have also been the national anthem.