Christian America?
Apr 9th 2008, 8:15 am
#76
WTF?
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Re: Christian America?
Just a few examples:
-Stem cell research
-Anti-abortion laws
-Prayer in schools
-Creationism in schools (now New and Improved with Pseudo Scientific Jargon!)
-Blue laws
-Anti-gay rights (although I am straight and even a tad homophobic myself, I take offense to any group that tries to stomp on the rights of others)
The root problem here is the same problem you find with militant Islam -- an unapologetic, unrestrained brand of ethical monotheism.
The true believers are committed to proselytizing and propagating their faith, as the Bible instructs them to, so they have no qualms about shoving their belief systems down our throats.
Because they believe in the One True God, the rest of us are just wrong and need to be fixed. Being absolutely right, in the face of the rest of us who are wrong, gives them license to use all the wrenches and screwdrivers they like, with no concern for the rest of us.
I'd no sooner want these sanctimonious bastards having dominion over me as I would want sharia law in my neighborhood. It would be nice if we could deport them to Atlantis and be done with it, let them get their own snorkels.
-Stem cell research
-Anti-abortion laws
-Prayer in schools
-Creationism in schools (now New and Improved with Pseudo Scientific Jargon!)
-Blue laws
-Anti-gay rights (although I am straight and even a tad homophobic myself, I take offense to any group that tries to stomp on the rights of others)
The root problem here is the same problem you find with militant Islam -- an unapologetic, unrestrained brand of ethical monotheism.
The true believers are committed to proselytizing and propagating their faith, as the Bible instructs them to, so they have no qualms about shoving their belief systems down our throats.
Because they believe in the One True God, the rest of us are just wrong and need to be fixed. Being absolutely right, in the face of the rest of us who are wrong, gives them license to use all the wrenches and screwdrivers they like, with no concern for the rest of us.
I'd no sooner want these sanctimonious bastards having dominion over me as I would want sharia law in my neighborhood. It would be nice if we could deport them to Atlantis and be done with it, let them get their own snorkels.
How the HELL did I forgot about that?!?!? :curse:
Apr 9th 2008, 8:17 am
#77
WTF?
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Homeostasis
Posts: 79,446
Re: Christian America?
Just a few examples:
-Stem cell research
-Anti-abortion laws
-Prayer in schools
-Creationism in schools (now New and Improved with Pseudo Scientific Jargon!)
-Blue laws
-Anti-gay rights (although I am straight and even a tad homophobic myself, I take offense to any group that tries to stomp on the rights of others)
The root problem here is the same problem you find with militant Islam -- an unapologetic, unrestrained brand of ethical monotheism.
The true believers are committed to proselytizing and propagating their faith, as the Bible instructs them to, so they have no qualms about shoving their belief systems down our throats.
Because they believe in the One True God, the rest of us are just wrong and need to be fixed. Being absolutely right, in the face of the rest of us who are wrong, gives them license to use all the wrenches and screwdrivers they like, with no concern for the rest of us.
I'd no sooner want these sanctimonious bastards having dominion over me as I would want sharia law in my neighborhood. It would be nice if we could deport them to Atlantis and be done with it, let them get their own snorkels.
-Stem cell research
-Anti-abortion laws
-Prayer in schools
-Creationism in schools (now New and Improved with Pseudo Scientific Jargon!)
-Blue laws
-Anti-gay rights (although I am straight and even a tad homophobic myself, I take offense to any group that tries to stomp on the rights of others)
The root problem here is the same problem you find with militant Islam -- an unapologetic, unrestrained brand of ethical monotheism.
The true believers are committed to proselytizing and propagating their faith, as the Bible instructs them to, so they have no qualms about shoving their belief systems down our throats.
Because they believe in the One True God, the rest of us are just wrong and need to be fixed. Being absolutely right, in the face of the rest of us who are wrong, gives them license to use all the wrenches and screwdrivers they like, with no concern for the rest of us.
I'd no sooner want these sanctimonious bastards having dominion over me as I would want sharia law in my neighborhood. It would be nice if we could deport them to Atlantis and be done with it, let them get their own snorkels.
Apr 9th 2008, 8:23 am
#78
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Re: Christian America?
Right now, we have an elected President who happens to be a born-again Christian. That's happened before (most recently with Carter) with decidedly different results. As this demonstrates, you can't simply conflate Bush's particular beliefs and political/moral stances with all Christianity. It's not that simple. Bush believes what he believes, let's not lump all Christians in with him.
Also, pointing out that the President is a born-again and acts in accordance with his particualr moral beliefs is very different than making a blanket statement that the US government is being run in accordance with Christian doctrine. The secular rule of law is still in force, democratic principles are still in force, etc. Comparing America under Bush to a theocracy is just silly.
Also, pointing out that the President is a born-again and acts in accordance with his particualr moral beliefs is very different than making a blanket statement that the US government is being run in accordance with Christian doctrine. The secular rule of law is still in force, democratic principles are still in force, etc. Comparing America under Bush to a theocracy is just silly.
Apr 9th 2008, 8:26 am
#79
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Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 41,518
Re: Christian America?
Just a few examples:
-Stem cell research
-Anti-abortion laws
-Prayer in schools
-Creationism in schools (now New and Improved with Pseudo Scientific Jargon!)
-Blue laws
-Anti-gay rights (although I am straight and even a tad homophobic myself, I take offense to any group that tries to stomp on the rights of others)
The root problem here is the same problem you find with militant Islam -- an unapologetic, unrestrained brand of ethical monotheism.
The true believers are committed to proselytizing and propagating their faith, as the Bible instructs them to, so they have no qualms about shoving their belief systems down our throats.
Because they believe in the One True God, the rest of us are just wrong and need to be fixed. Being absolutely right, in the face of the rest of us who are wrong, gives them license to use all the wrenches and screwdrivers they like, with no concern for the rest of us.
I'd no sooner want these sanctimonious bastards having dominion over me as I would want sharia law in my neighborhood. It would be nice if we could deport them to Atlantis and be done with it, let them get their own snorkels.
-Stem cell research
-Anti-abortion laws
-Prayer in schools
-Creationism in schools (now New and Improved with Pseudo Scientific Jargon!)
-Blue laws
-Anti-gay rights (although I am straight and even a tad homophobic myself, I take offense to any group that tries to stomp on the rights of others)
The root problem here is the same problem you find with militant Islam -- an unapologetic, unrestrained brand of ethical monotheism.
The true believers are committed to proselytizing and propagating their faith, as the Bible instructs them to, so they have no qualms about shoving their belief systems down our throats.
Because they believe in the One True God, the rest of us are just wrong and need to be fixed. Being absolutely right, in the face of the rest of us who are wrong, gives them license to use all the wrenches and screwdrivers they like, with no concern for the rest of us.
I'd no sooner want these sanctimonious bastards having dominion over me as I would want sharia law in my neighborhood. It would be nice if we could deport them to Atlantis and be done with it, let them get their own snorkels.
Apr 9th 2008, 8:39 am
#82
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Re: Christian America?
Right now, we have an elected President who happens to be a born-again Christian. That's happened before (most recently with Carter) with decidedly different results. As this demonstrates, you can't simply conflate Bush's particular beliefs and political/moral stances with all Christianity. It's not that simple. Bush believes what he believes, let's not lump all Christians in with him.
Also, pointing out that the President is a born-again and acts in accordance with his particualr moral beliefs is very different than making a blanket statement that the US government is being run in accordance with Christian doctrine. The secular rule of law is still in force, democratic principles are still in force, etc. Comparing America under Bush to a theocracy is just silly.
Also, pointing out that the President is a born-again and acts in accordance with his particualr moral beliefs is very different than making a blanket statement that the US government is being run in accordance with Christian doctrine. The secular rule of law is still in force, democratic principles are still in force, etc. Comparing America under Bush to a theocracy is just silly.
Apr 9th 2008, 8:41 am
#83
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Re: Christian America?
And that is flucking scary...
Aactually, I'm not sure what is scarier - them, or people like you who say what's it got to do with me.
Apr 9th 2008, 8:46 am
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Re: Christian America?
is your wife first or second baptist? i ask you this hoping you can answer a question for me....
in our close we have two neighbours, one is a judge who's second baptist and the other is a lawyer who's first baptist and they despise each other...they think i know what the difference is between second and first but i'm with the Woolwich and haven't a clue
in our close we have two neighbours, one is a judge who's second baptist and the other is a lawyer who's first baptist and they despise each other...they think i know what the difference is between second and first but i'm with the Woolwich and haven't a clue
Apr 9th 2008, 8:46 am
#85
WTF?
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Re: Christian America?
Actually it is ..... there are some Baptists that make Jeffs look progressive. 
It's actually a great Texas pasttime for all non-Baptists to make fun of the Baptists. However the Baptists outnumber the rest of us now.
It's actually a great Texas pasttime for all non-Baptists to make fun of the Baptists. However the Baptists outnumber the rest of us now.
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Apr 9th 2008, 8:48 am
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WTF?
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Re: Christian America?
is your wife first or second baptist? i ask you this hoping you can answer a question for me....
in our close we have two neighbours, one is a judge who's second baptist and the other is a lawyer who's first baptist and they despise each other...they think i know what the difference is between second and first but i'm with the Woolwich and haven't a clue
in our close we have two neighbours, one is a judge who's second baptist and the other is a lawyer who's first baptist and they despise each other...they think i know what the difference is between second and first but i'm with the Woolwich and haven't a clue
Apr 9th 2008, 8:52 am
#89
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Posts: 2,425
Re: Christian America?
Millions of Japanese people believe that Japan was only trying to help China and Korea when it invaded during WW2.
Millions of people all over the world swallow everything al-Jezeera says unquestioning.
Millions of Brits believe that warm beer and a gristle sandwich taste good (
).People believe all kinds of things, let's not single out poor, deluded Glenn Beck/ Michael Savage fans.
