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Ingles Nov 24th 2019 9:29 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12769025)
In that case I thank Jeff Key for his service but one has to be careful of these videos and suspect that they may be the work of politically motivated mischief makers with agendas to place supporters of a democratically elected President in embarrassing and awkward situations.

He needs NO Help from anybody, to make his self look stupid & a twat !
This link contains just a few off the stupid lying comments he's made
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

Ingles Nov 24th 2019 9:59 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 
Yet another "Trumpet" under investigation
https://dailysoundandfury.com/nunes-...m_campaign=tti

Ingles Nov 24th 2019 11:20 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 
Why did most the GOP onlookers disappear during the Impeachment Enquiry ?
Answer :- Sondland was testifying & the scum bag's could not stand to hear the truth ,so they left !
https://dailysoundandfury.com/mass-e...m_campaign=tti

zargof Nov 25th 2019 3:22 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 12768554)
It's more complicated than that. Gabbard is a pain the ass Democrat on her best day; always picking fights with them. I hate/love her. I think she's engaging and I admire her balls. On the other hand, some of the shit she says -----> :confused: But she did rock the white power suit and that ain't nothing.

The point is that she's divisive and therefore the Russians like her and they are doing their thing so there is a real footprint of their support. What Gabbard does about that is up to her. In a way, it looks like what happened with Jill Stein. Clinton, knowing all of this, chose to be a bomb thrower because the two of them are in a pissing contest.

It is all troubling though if you think about it. This is what the Russians do, everybody knows that and they'll never stop, but this is what it looks like when they go unchecked.

Gabbard is the choice for people who don't like Democrats. There is an audience for that, not a big enough one to get any where in the primary, but enough to get on the debate stage. Personally, I think it's good to have different voices on the debate stage, so I like to hear from Gabbard and Yang, even if I don't agree with everything they say. One thing that Tulsi does very well is when she goes after someone it's effective. She did it to Harris before and she did it to Buttigieg this time.

I'm not going to go over the whole Russian thing again as it's so overblown. The Russians are going to interfere, as is every other country, as they always have. It's just so tiresome to have this implication, that because the Russians like a candidate they are automatically bad. Rich people like Buttigieg because he is looking out for their interests. It would be nice if we could do something about the influence of American oligarchs before worrying about Russian ones.

dc koop Nov 25th 2019 6:52 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12769192)
It's their job! Remember when they "dug up" a few things about Nixon?

"A free press is a foundation for any democracy" - Thomas Jefferson

If I had the inclination I'd research some of the things they dug up about Kennedy. I've read some detailed history of his Presidency. There was enough smut and behind the scenes crap to make a two hour porn movie but did the WAPO go after him with the same vigilance that they went after Nixon and now Trump? If they did I haven't heard of it. There is absolutely no getting away from it. The WAPO is and always has been politically orientated towards the left of American politics and I don't see any sense in you continuing to argue the matter.

scrubbedexpat099 Nov 25th 2019 7:16 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
To think there is some source of truth strikes me as deeply worrying, now we can certainly argue how bad the different sources are and I do not put WaPo in the CNN category.

My impression is that things have got worse but no obvious way of measuring this, well in my time, the DriveBys were obviously much worse historically.

Giantaxe Nov 25th 2019 7:37 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12769502)
If I had the inclination I'd research some of the things they dug up about Kennedy. I've read some detailed history of his Presidency. There was enough smut and behind the scenes crap to make a two hour porn movie but did the WAPO go after him with the same vigilance that they went after Nixon and now Trump? If they did I haven't heard of it. There is absolutely no getting away from it. The WAPO is and always has been politically orientated towards the left of American politics and I don't see any sense in you continuing to argue the matter.

So we've now moved from your "You claim Fox News is propaganda. I claim MSNBC is propaganda. The WAPO could very well be in the same category as MSNBC" to the "WAPO is and always has been politically orientated towards the left of American politics". That's quite a bit of goalpost-moving even for you.

Do you remember which newspaper first ran the story of "Clinton and her emails"?

Leslie Nov 25th 2019 7:50 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
I need some examples of where these media outlets have told lies. If they're not LYING then quit crying. Even FOX news has a right to exist except for when they're LYING.

Anian Nov 25th 2019 8:08 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
Does every politics thread have to consist of DC Koop saying something dumb/wrong and then everyone showing how dumb it was?

Leslie Nov 25th 2019 8:16 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12769418)
Gabbard is the choice for people who don't like Democrats. There is an audience for that, not a big enough one to get any where in the primary, but enough to get on the debate stage. Personally, I think it's good to have different voices on the debate stage, so I like to hear from Gabbard and Yang, even if I don't agree with everything they say. One thing that Tulsi does very well is when she goes after someone it's effective. She did it to Harris before and she did it to Buttigieg this time.

I'm not going to go over the whole Russian thing again as it's so overblown. The Russians are going to interfere, as is every other country, as they always have. It's just so tiresome to have this implication, that because the Russians like a candidate they are automatically bad. Rich people like Buttigieg because he is looking out for their interests. It would be nice if we could do something about the influence of American oligarchs before worrying about Russian ones.

I agree with everything you said except I don't think the Russia thing is overblown. If it weren't for the Russian thing, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I do not believe that Gabbard has done anything untoward but she will never completely shake the stink of them now that they've rubbed up against her.

johnwoo Nov 25th 2019 8:51 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12769546)
Does every politics thread have to consist of DC Koop saying something dumb/wrong and then everyone showing how dumb it was?

I t looks that way. :nod:

zargof Nov 25th 2019 8:52 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 12769547)
I agree with everything you said except I don't think the Russia thing is overblown. If it weren't for the Russian thing, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I do not believe that Gabbard has done anything untoward but she will never completely shake the stink of them now that they've rubbed up against her.

This is the exact problem. All you have to do is plant the seed that someone is affiliated with Russia somehow in the media and they are screwed regardless of the truth. They've tried it with Bernie, and I'm sure they'll do it with Warren if she doesn't play ball.

dc koop Nov 25th 2019 4:06 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12769546)
Does every politics thread have to consist of DC Koop saying something dumb/wrong and then everyone showing how dumb it was?

You and Caretaker have a lot in common. Neither of you post a lot and neither of you contribute much of substance when you do post. Now go to bed and I'll wake you up when it time for your glass of warm milk

dc koop Nov 25th 2019 4:24 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12769529)
So we've now moved from your "You claim Fox News is propaganda. I claim MSNBC is propaganda. The WAPO could very well be in the same category as MSNBC" to the "WAPO is and always has been politically orientated towards the left of American politics". That's quite a bit of goalpost-moving even for you.

Do you remember which newspaper first ran the story of "Clinton and her emails"?

I think you've understood my point but just want to go on prolonging the discussion. I'm going to take this discussion/ argument out behind the tool shed and shoot it. Enjoy your Thanksgiving !

dc koop Nov 25th 2019 4:38 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Ingles (Post 12769268)
This only confirms that you require mental health help & guidance !

Cannot you post an opinion straight from what you optimistically call your own mind without relying every time on a link? All you are doing is relying on someone else's thoughts and opinion. This indicates a weakness of mind or a tendency of being wankish or downright lazy. Yeah I know you hate Trump and all republicans blah blah blah blah but do try to avoid sounding like a clapped out broken record. I look forward, although with a certain amount of pessimism included to a contribution one day from you that does not originate from some Euro supermarket tabloid


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