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Old Oct 28th 2016, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
I don't think it's absurd given the starting point and political realities in this country. The current flaw is that the "mandate" is pretty much a joke, so younger and healthier people aren't signing up. Without a functional mandate, an insurance-based model simply doesn't work.
First you need to define what you mean by the term Insurance, simplistically everybody pays into a pool according to the risk they contribute.

OCare has a vague connection with Insurance.

When you can buy in knowing there is a big difference between what you pay and your risk then the ones who benefit will say yes and the one who do not will say no.

Let us say a Restaurant charges $20 a head no matter what you eat, do you order the soup or the steak?
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Originally Posted by Boiler
Let us say a Restaurant charges $20 a head no matter what you eat, do you order the soup or the steak?
Then you get 90% of people saying they aren't hungry right now and don't pay anything. So the restaurant says to the remaining 10% they now have to pay $40. Meanwhile the restaurant supply store just marked up steaks 1000%.
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So this "new investigation" is down to Anthony Weiner being a dirty bastard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us...smtyp=cur&_r=1
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Then you get 90% of people saying they aren't hungry right now and don't pay anything. So the restaurant says to the remaining 10% they now have to pay $40. Meanwhile the restaurant supply store just marked up steaks 1000%.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
You're laughing but I think it's a fair summary of what has just happened.
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
You're laughing but I think it's a fair summary of what has just happened.
Should have added and maybe

I quite agree, just thought it was a good way of expressing it.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
Should have added and maybe

I quite agree, just thought it was a good way of expressing it.
Fair enough.

I'm all for Obamacare. It's a shame it didn't do anything for actually restricting the provider costs. It placed all that burden on the insurers who did all they could with restricted networks to limit costs. But if the providers raise the price of an epipen 1000% what can they do? Single payer may be the only way to go but I don't know how they implement it.
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What a most interesting election we are having this time around.
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Old Oct 28th 2016, 10:51 am
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Wow what's worse the wife of a sexual pervert and a liar who could jeopardise national security or a kinky guy who previously said he touched a woman or two on the leg and breast (not proven as yet)
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Wow what's worse the wife of a sexual pervert and a liar who could jeopardise national security or a kinky guy who previously said he touched a woman or two on the leg and breast (not proven as yet)
I honestly didn't know Melania was running.
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Wow what's worse the wife of a sexual pervert and a liar who could jeopardise national security or a kinky guy who previously said he touched a woman or two on the leg and breast (not proven as yet)
Is 'touch' a euphemism for 'grab'? And is 'leg' a euphemism for 'pussy' now?
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See, there is voter fraud! Arrested trying to vote twice for Trump.

Voter fraud suspect arrested in Des Moines
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
They don't see it as a priority.



I don't think it's absurd given the starting point and political realities in this country. The current flaw is that the "mandate" is pretty much a joke, so younger and healthier people aren't signing up. Without a functional mandate, an insurance-based model simply doesn't work.



Indeed.
While the numbers may show if more younger people signed up it might be more economic for Obamacare to function, I still maintain this is looking at the effect as opposed to the cause- out of control medical costs. And neither political party has the courage to stand up to the drug companies, doctors and hospitals. I am not a big fan of government intervention in the market, but this situation is crazy.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Is 'touch' a euphemism for 'grab'? And is 'leg' a euphemism for 'pussy' now?
It could be a euphemism for "raping a 13 year old girl"?
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
It could be a euphemism for "raping a 13 year old girl"?
It's not 'child rape' ... it's just good kinky fun!
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