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Old Nov 9th 2016, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Right. But when things are likely blocked at the federal level, the only way forward is at the state. Even with Clinton as president, nothing on the gun control front would have got through congress.
Would not California have the right to require background checks when purchasing firearms at gun shows ?
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Would not California have the right to require background checks when purchasing firearms at gun shows ?
California already requires background checks for gun show purchases.
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Colorado require that and more stuff.
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This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.
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Originally Posted by zargof
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.
When should Republicans come to that same conclusion about themselves?
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Default Re: 2016 Election

Originally Posted by zargof
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.
Good luck with that.
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Old Nov 9th 2016, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by zargof
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.
If I was a Dem donor and had paid out big time I would be rather unhappy and would be looking for something more substantial in return for future investments.
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Old Nov 9th 2016, 8:02 am
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Do we take solace in the fact that Clinton won the popular vote? That that in itself shows that there is a future for Democrats if the DNC get more in tune with their base?
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Originally Posted by dakota44
When should Republicans come to that same conclusion about themselves?
Republicans never claim to be the party of the people. For them it's (supposedly) about lower taxes and freedom.
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Do we take solace in the fact that Clinton won the popular vote? That that in itself shows that there is a future for Democrats if the DNC get more in tune with their base?
Not really. Unless all those liberals in California are relocating to the Midwest.
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Originally Posted by zargof
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.
Not much of it.

Let's remember that she won more votes, she apparently just didn't win them in the right places.

Clinton is bright, but she isn't charismatic or a particularly compelling speaker. I'm willing to bet that Joe Biden would have won, people just like him better.
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Originally Posted by zargof
Not really. Unless all those liberals in California are relocating to the Midwest.
Quite a few have moved to Colorado, worked here.
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Originally Posted by zargof
Not really. Unless all those liberals in California are relocating to the Midwest.
The Midwest will turn blue again with the right candidate to get behind.
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
The Midwest will turn blue again with the right candidate to get behind.
With the right candidate it could be red - Reagan turned almost the whole country red.
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
The Midwest will turn blue again with the right candidate to get behind.
Or if, as I suspect will be the case, Trump does little to resurrect the manufacturing jobs that have been lost from those states.
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