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Old Jun 10th 2016, 4:36 am
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Originally Posted by johnwoo
I don't no what Army you were in, but when I did my National Service, no one was this super fit athletic teenager you describe. More like a bunch of hapless misfits. I've never laughed so much as seeing my fellow 18 to 22 year olds trying to complete the obstacle course. Dads Army would have given us a run for our money.
Not every soldier, sailor or airman is front line combat, in fact there are more support personnel than there are combat, which do not require super human strength and endurance.
I served in the Royal Artillery. We were a bunch of misfits when we went in but we shaped up pretty well after training. I cant speak for the Catering Corps or the Pioneer Corps but the Artillery like the Infantry, the Armored Corps, the Engineers are teeth arms, right up there in the front lines.
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Fascinating, doesn't alter the fact he was a racist and Trump seems okay associating with one. I mean, John Wayne made those statements well after the civil rights era, well into the 1970s. And he wasn't just Joe Nobody talking to someone in the bar, it was a magazine interview that was widely read.

Apparently he skipped the civil rights era, like he skipped the draft.

This is the whole problem with Trump and also the same problem with Brexit. You've got these old duffers who grew up in the 1950s, (but in reality were children so they don't really remember it accurately) arguing for a return to something they never experienced as adults.

No-one seems to mention that much btw. Bernie, Hillary and Donald are all in their 70s, vote for Gary Johnson! He might live to finish his second term! Now there's a campaign slogan.
The Trump generation were kids when "Leave it to Beaver" was the big hit in TV. That explains a lot when it comes to understanding old pards like Trump. Leave it to Beaver was everyday America in real life.

Hillary is the only suitable option in this case. I wouldn't vote for Gary Johnson or have anything to do with a Libertarian. No one would vote for him either. The GOP have got themselves into a huge mess. Serves them right
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Good grief..now there is a guy posting results from 3 polling places in California...not one of which had more that 100 voters...and Sanders had more votes...so of course that means election fraud...yes..because the more than 6000, I estimate, other polling places must surely be the same. There are apparently more than 4,000 in LA alone. These people will be in denial for the rest of their lives. Does not say much for their intelligence either.

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Now that Obama is aboard I see Trump on the ropes pretty soon. He' has probably crippled himself pretty badly already with his remarks about the Federal Judge. Only old duffers like Mitch McConnell would make any effort to support him now.

Obama comes with pretty good credentials at the end of his term.

The economy although still not fully recovered is in better shape than Europe's, China's or Russia's.

The unemployment rate is down to around 5 percent.

We are not sending off thousands of young men and women to fight in foreign wars to either get killed or coming back without arms or legs

The war against ISIS is gradually turning in our favour and several top ISIS leaders have been killed.

There have been no terrorist attacks in the US since the Boston Marathon bombings

The Affordable Care Act although not perfect has given a couple of million Americans at least some health coverage

Obama leaves office with a very high favourable rating

Compare this to the situation at the end of the George Bush administration in 2008
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Originally Posted by dc koop
Now that Obama is aboard I see Trump on the ropes pretty soon. He' has probably crippled himself pretty badly already with his remarks about the Federal Judge. Only old duffers like Mitch McConnell would make any effort to support him now.

Obama comes with pretty good credentials at the end of his term.

The economy although still not fully recovered is in better shape than Europe's, China's or Russia's.

The unemployment rate is down to around 5 percent.

We are not sending off thousands of young men and women to fight in foreign wars to either get killed or coming back without arms or legs

The war against ISIS is gradually turning in our favour and several top ISIS leaders have been killed.

There have been no terrorist attacks in the US since the Boston Marathon bombings

The Affordable Care Act although not perfect has given a couple of million Americans at least some health coverage

Obama leaves office with a very high favourable rating

Compare this to the situation at the end of the George Bush administration in 2008
But these are facts ... and Trump has managed to create his own alternate universe where facts don't seem to matter. Very scary.
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Old Jun 10th 2016, 5:34 am
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Originally Posted by Steerpike
But these are facts ... and Trump has managed to create his own alternate universe where facts don't seem to matter. Very scary.
Only to certain groups of misinformed people
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Originally Posted by dc koop
Only to certain groups of misinformed people
Hopefully these certain groups of misinformed people don't amount to a majority in the swing states that matter; places like Michigan.
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Originally Posted by dc koop
Now that Obama is aboard I see Trump on the ropes pretty soon. He' has probably crippled himself pretty badly already with his remarks about the Federal Judge. Only old duffers like Mitch McConnell would make any effort to support him now.

Obama comes with pretty good credentials at the end of his term.

The economy although still not fully recovered is in better shape than Europe's, China's or Russia's.

The unemployment rate is down to around 5 percent.

We are not sending off thousands of young men and women to fight in foreign wars to either get killed or coming back without arms or legs

The war against ISIS is gradually turning in our favour and several top ISIS leaders have been killed.

There have been no terrorist attacks in the US since the Boston Marathon bombings

The Affordable Care Act although not perfect has given a couple of million Americans at least some health coverage

Obama leaves office with a very high favourable rating

Compare this to the situation at the end of the George Bush administration in 2008
Agree except don't forget the San Bernardino shootings.
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Originally Posted by dc koop
Only to certain groups of misinformed people
Talking of which... I'm totally swayed by that cartoon.
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Pocahontas endorsing Clinton, you have to laugh

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Talking of which... I'm totally swayed by that cartoon.
The one where we pretend Trump has man shoulders?
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This thread has turned into a rightwing Facebook page.
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This thread has turned into a rightwing Facebook page.
It's telling that the few posters on the "right" can't get past predictable pictorial memes rather than forming cogent arguments of their own.

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Originally Posted by themadpooper
Pocahontas endorsing Clinton, you have to laugh

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CklrCcRUgAA2mfX.jpg

You have to be the most idiotic and ill informed fool I have ever encountered. Educate yourself about Warren.

Warren started her academic career as a lecturer at Rutgers School of Law–Newark (1977–78). She moved to the University of Houston Law Center (1978–83), where she became Associate Dean for Academic Affairs in 1980, and obtained tenure in 1981. She taught at the University of Texas School of Law as visiting associate professor in 1981, and returned as a full professor two years later (staying 1983–87). In addition, she was a visiting professor at the University of Michigan (1985) and research associate at the Population Research Center of the University of Texas at Austin (1983–87).[34] Early in her career, Warren became a proponent of on-the-ground research based on studying how people actually respond to laws in the real world. Her work analyzing court records, and interviewing judges, lawyers, and debtors, established her as a rising star in the field of bankruptcy law.[35]

Warren joined the University of Pennsylvania Law School as a full professor in 1987 and obtained an endowed chair in 1990 (becoming William A Schnader Professor of Commercial Law). She taught for a year at Harvard Law School in 1992 as Robert Braucher Visiting Professor of Commercial Law. In 1995, Warren left Penn to become Leo Gottlieb Professor of Law at Harvard Law School.[34] As of 2011, she was the only tenured law professor at Harvard who attended law school at an American public university.[35] At Harvard, Warren became one of the most highly cited law professors in the United States. Although she had published in many fields, her expertise was in bankruptcy. In the field of bankruptcy and commercial law, only Douglas Baird of Chicago, Alan Schwartz of Yale, and Bob Scott of Columbia have citation rates comparable to that of Warren.[36] Warren's scholarship and public advocacy were the impetus behind the establishment of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.[
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