dakota44

Except that was not what I was referring to.

themadpooper

Should've clicked on the link before making assumptions, you would've discovered the unflattering statistics were collated from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau data - the government, basically

This one's pretty damning:

Steve_

Too many !!!!!! exclamation points !!!!!! If it wasn't for a Supreme Court ruling in the 1980s !!!!!! he would be in a secure psychiatric facility !!!!!!

Anyway, going by the opinion polls, the Republicans will hold onto the House of Representatives and the Democrats will take over control of the Senate so it really doesn't matter a jot who wins the Presidency, gridlock will continue.

May as well vote for the Libertarian candidate.

Steve_

Well, the opinion polls for Brexit look evenly balanced, so pretty much the same thing really. And this even after Boris and his inane comments about how Obama favours the EU because his father was Kenyan.

I'm afraid there are still a lot of old fogies out there who remember the 1950s.

Or more accurately, think they remember the 1950s.

Personally I'm just waiting for Brexit to happen, so David Davis et al can send a trade mission over to Canada and we can tell them to f off.

I mean, look at Trump quoting Eisenhower and Operation Wetback as one teeny tiny example of the future shock these people are experiencing.

"Oh no, black people can vote!"

themadpooper

He would end the Affordable Care Act and a Republican controlled congress would get it done quicker than you could blink, the wall could also happen. There's already legislation in place for it so the argument that one is needed has already been won, it's just how big and who pays

As for making American great again, all the best slogans have one thing in common: they inspire. It doesn't matter what they mean. Evidently, you don't like Trump, but to call the slogan lacking execution misses the point

SultanOfSwing

Trump is no more a Republican than Sanders is a Democrat though, they're both Independents who ran this way because of the broken two party system.

I'll give you repealing the ACA as a strong possibility, but then what will it be replaced with? Just because Obama came up with it (which seems to be the biggest argument against it), doesn't mean things like abolishing preexisting conditions are a bad thing. Personally I don't think it was an ideal solution, more of a band-aid because he couldn't have get what he really wanted past the House, but that's a whole other discussion.

That being said, I'm not 100% convinced the entire GOP will get behind him if he were to win, he has ruffled quite a few feathers during this campaign, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Inspiration based on empty gestures, yeah OK, it's not like that hasn't happened many times before so I'll go with it. He's certainly perfected the art of rabble rousing anyway, but I think they should be backed up with some substance as well. Shouldn't it be more about making America 'better', rather than claiming what he would imply is the best country in the world somehow isn't great at the same time?

I've nothing against him personally - he's a successful businessman and by all accounts seems to be a pretty clean family guy in his personal life. I don't buy into all the negative stereotypes per se, I don't misinterpret his exceptionalism as racism, though I do think he could choose his words more carefully. I just don't want him to win the election based on how he's presenting himself in the primary and I'm really not sure if he is the right choice.

zargof

So amongst all the political signage I'm seeing is stuff supporting the county coroner. It still seems strange to me. I know the rationale of preventing cronyism, but really what is the difference between a Democrat and Republican coroner?

celticgrid

Such numbers are meaningless unless put in context, which both you and the article have studiously avoided doing.

Unless you are also applying the same logic as you do to words:

Sigh.

RoadWarriorFromLP

It's tough to take conservatives seriously when they can't even figure out simple things, such as the fact that labor force participation is not the same thing as unemployment.

Oakvillian

The last statistic you pull out provides a perfect example of why statistics out of context can be so very misleading.

The global recession, which you'll recall started before Obama took office in 2008, resulted in a significant growth in the numbers of food stamp users. Both summary and detailed numbers are available here Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) | Food and Nutrition Service - but the headline numbers show that in 2008-2012 the total number of food stamp users grew from 28,223,000 to 45,767,000 - an increase of 62%.

Your source cites an increase of 58% in the number of African-American users of food stamps. That is lower than the national total, which means proportionally fewer African Americans are in the program than was the case in 2008. This indicates exactly the opposite case to that which you are making.

But thanks for playing.

celticgrid

The difference is what gets classed as death by natural causes.

RoadWarriorFromLP

It's the sort of thing that you should expect from someone who goes by the handle of "Crazy Shit."

RoadWarriorFromLP

The Republican coroner will support smaller government, i.e. corpses should perform their own autopsies.

robin1234

Talking about conservatives, could I get recommendations for right wing news aggregators? I assume there are such things. I look at Breitbart dot com now & then, but they seem to have their own axes to grind - plus their site is annoyingly "busy" and slow to load.

I used to be on top of this stuff when I worked, but since retiring I've got lazy and just look at a few news sites that do not cover the spectrum....

Gordon Barlow

I wonder if we have any of these "online trolls" on this thread. Statistically, almost certain, I would think. All those supposed Trump-haters, who would rather have a war criminal as their President...
Pro-Hillary PAC Spending $1 Million to Hire Online Trolls - Breitbart