2016 Election
#5656
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I know. The point is that Americans are willing to work at low paying, labor intensive jobs. I'm not interested in fighting the 'right or wrong' of allowing Mexican labor in the US. I was challenging the notion that Americans won't do this type of work therefore the (poor darlings) business owners are forced (completely against their will) to hire undocumented workers.
Also bear in mind the wage is just start of the cost, all the add ons, and those here sans documents are less likely to not turn up if they have a good job.
#5658
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Three of my daughters had early jobs cleaning hotel rooms. They averaged 30 minutes per room. Now another 5 dollars an hour would add 2.50 to room rate..if it were even passed along. Studies were done that showed a 15 dollar an hour wage would only increase the price of a burger at McDonalds by about 10 cents.
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[QUOTE=dakota44;11892296][QUOTE=Boiler;11892281]
Three of my daughters had early jobs cleaning hotel rooms. They averaged 30 minutes per room. Now another 5 dollars an hour would add 2.50 to room rate..if it were even passed along. Studies were done that showed a 15 dollar an hour wage would only increase the price of a burger at McDonalds by about 10 cents.[/QUOTE]
That still sounds dubious. Another impact without a doubt is that many would lose their jobs, Those who were not laid off would find their work load increase accordingly. It's happened many times before
Three of my daughters had early jobs cleaning hotel rooms. They averaged 30 minutes per room. Now another 5 dollars an hour would add 2.50 to room rate..if it were even passed along. Studies were done that showed a 15 dollar an hour wage would only increase the price of a burger at McDonalds by about 10 cents.[/QUOTE]
That still sounds dubious. Another impact without a doubt is that many would lose their jobs, Those who were not laid off would find their work load increase accordingly. It's happened many times before
#5662
It is I think more complicated than that. Certain areas which used to be well paid are no longer, Drywall come to mind. Back in the UK I worked with a couple of guys who bummed across the US and did some landscaping work in Boulder of all places, would not happen now.
Also bear in mind the wage is just start of the cost, all the add ons, and those here sans documents are less likely to not turn up if they have a good job.
Also bear in mind the wage is just start of the cost, all the add ons, and those here sans documents are less likely to not turn up if they have a good job.
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Some jobs you are right about. Picking fruits and vegetables is not one of them though. Farmers in California and even the union advertised for legal citizen applicants and got no responses. Mississippi passed anti undocumented immigrant legislation a year or so back...and all the immigrant farm labor left the state. One farmer watched 250,000 dollars worth of watermelons rot on the vine because no one else wanted the job 9f picking them.
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That still sounds dubious. Another impact without a doubt is that many would lose their jobs, Those who were not laid off would find their work load increase accordingly. It's happened many times before
From the customer perspective smaller tips so the total cost will not be that different.
#5665
So have we learned anything more from this (eleventh? twelfth?) debate?
They keep repeating themselves ad nauseum, it feels a bit tired and you wonder what purpose the debates now serve.
They keep repeating themselves ad nauseum, it feels a bit tired and you wonder what purpose the debates now serve.
#5666
The only reason the problem exists is because no concerted effort to punish employers who hire undocumented workers has ever been seriously carried out. Hell there were and likely still are companies that use recruiters to advertise jobs to people in Mexico. The Cargill meat packing plant is one of the worst offenders.
#5667
Donald Trump is willing to lie to defend his violent mob audience. Not that I've learned anything new from that.
#5668
Cotton does not bruise or break open. There are a vast number of fruits and vegetables that cannot be machine picked.
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