CelticRover

Simply stated, you can dish it out but can't take it when your bullshit is discredited. You have promised to never return before but after recovering from the fetal position, sucking your thumb, you always return to further educate and enlighten the forum to the right wing American way. If you can't handle it, you shouldn't be prodding clearly, educated people.

scrubbedexpat099

Well I am not a Democrat.

But I agree there is an awful lot of crap on this thread.

username.exe

Watching the debate right now.
On the trade agreement topic after more hot air from Trump about how the Chinese are the biggest abusers of the US, Rand Paul comments:
"Hey Gerard, you may want to mention the fact that China aren't a part of this deal."

*drops mic*

SultanOfSwing

Nobody gives a shit about any of that stuff. What most people want is someone who is fit to govern a (supposedly) modern country in the modern world and who isn't a cnut.

It just tends to be that such people are usually found in the Democratic camp, though there are plenty of unsuitable cnuts in there as well, I'm sure.

scrubbedexpat099

So that rules out Hillary?

SultanOfSwing

I don't think she's a cnut. Bit of a sour-face and another warmonger, maybe, but she's no more or less fit to govern than any of the last few presidents.

She's still a cut above the 'best of the rest', though. If Bernie isn't going to win, I'd be happier with her than Trump or Carson, since the only mildly tolerable GOP candidates seem to have ruled themselves unelectable anyway.

username.exe

Rand Paul was on point tonight.

Proposing to a room full of conservatives that reducing military spending might actually be a good idea. Shooting down Russian planes could actually... start another war. Man might have played a part in climate change.

He was also literally the only person on stage who actually has a decent understanding on how the economy works.

Rand is scratching a conservative itch I didn't know I had.

scrubbedexpat099

What sort of itch would you get from Hillary?

sir_eccles

Isn't he still a fan of the gold standard?

Going by my twitter feed, Trump isn't doing so well tonight.

username.exe

I don't think gong to the gold standard is the smartest move.
However, I also don't think any of the other candidates have the capacity to offer a reasonable opinion on the subject. If any of those other candidates got it they would simply hand the economic reigns over to some faceless bureaucrats.

I don't agree with many of his social values, but I do strongly agree with him that we should not allow the NSA to surveil the population in the name of 'National Security'.

Best of a bad bunch, though.

Giantaxe

Fiorina rails against socialism and then her solution after "repealing job-killing Obamacare' is to have high risk pools run by... the states. Lol.

For Kasich everything is about O-hi-o. Lol.

RoadWarriorFromLP

Rand Paul is the worst of the bunch on economics, and that's saying something. The gold standard/Fed audit nonsense that he gets from his dad is the sort of dangerous populism that can destroy a country if it is allowed to take hold.

A gold standard would result in a permanent depression because there isn't enough gold in the ground to monetize economic growth in a modern economy. No one who understands economics would argue for a productive country such as the US to base its currency on a commodity that it can't mine for itself, particularly in light of the US' reliance on a trade deficit in order to control inflation. Complete lunacy.

username.exe

And the Republican debate winner is... the British guy - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/34784476

scrubbedexpat099

Fox did a much much better job, made the previous shambles look even more embarrassing.

jjmb

So have only briefly dived into this thread but if by the remotest chance the Donald gets nominated as the GOP candidate, does anyone know if he has ever claimed British citizenship or if he has renounced it. Given his stance on birthright citizenship, wouldn't this be a issue the media would pick up on and why hasn't already been taken up? Cruz wisely decided to get rid of the issue as soon as he could and renounced his Canadian citizenship.