Get your facts right.

Using a Sky card out of the UK is only breach of contract and the only action that Sky or anyone else can legally take is to deactivate your card. If you think that is incorrect I suggest you read a Sky contract.

If you cannot get your legal facts correct, as I said before, please give it a rest on this subject.

Misrepresentation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misrepresentation

Misrepresentation Act 1967 is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, which regulates English contract law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misrepresentation_Act_1967

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_pretenses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breach_of_contract

I stand by my original statement here and elsewhere.
That the big guns will NOT be used by the likes of Sky against the little man in the street but, as you say, just switch off the card could in some terms without positive proof bounce back on them in the short term at least.

I am disappointed that a Moderator is trying to restrict free speech on this forum, even if he feels it is wrong
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@ Domino Are you aware that you are really coming over as a extremely sanctimonous person on this subject

Doesn't he just!!!

I should also tell him ('cos he keeps on about it), that the Human Rights issue, didn't refer to watching TV, but the infringement of rights, if I was prevented from using a security program that hides my location!!
As for the commercial companies, they could take a leaf out of TVCatchup's book!.

You are perfectly entitled to say what you like within the rules of this forum..

It's unfortunate that most of what you have been saying on this subject is incorrect.

As for Sky, as I said, I suggest you read their contract.

I will make no further comments on your postings. Others can make their own judgement on them.

SKY doesn't care if ex-pats in Spain (or anywhere else) use the system. They would be happy to supply it but international agreements prevent them doing so. They turn a blind eye but will cut you off if it stares them in the face.

Once we were at the Volvo masters, Montecastillo andSKY had a marquee with live broadcast. At one point the presenter said at the end, come on down all you Brits we know you are all watching us on the coast.

I wonder how many members of this forum are logged in using VPN and hiding their IP's from the Moderators, who use IP amongst other things to check things out.?

interesting that some seem to think that the internet is part of the Hoomun Rites Charter giving them what they want when they want for free.
So someone blocks them, they will go elsewhere and pay someone else to sneak in the back door and steal the goodies for them, whilst complaining that they have had their rights abused.

Take it or leave it, watch Corrie, TOWIE, BB, or whatever via the person who sells it to you the cheapest, but do not start griping because the owner of those programs stops you from getting them, just because you have paid the thief who passed them on to you.

I have seen some very interesting photo's of Spain posted by members of this forum, I will take them and use them to make my own profit, and that will be alright, cos I got it off the internet.

good nite all

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i will say this only once ....there is NO LAW in europe that states you HAVE TO allow any ´ commercial organisation´´ to know where you or your computer are located .there IS a ruling by the HIGHEST court in europe that you can watch SKY anywhere within the 27 AS LONG AS YOUR GOT THE CARD LEGALLY IN ONE OF THE MEMBER STATES .. [url]http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2011-10/cp110102en.pdf[/url
´´Location-Aware Browsing is always opt-in in Firefox. No location information is ever sent without your permission.

FILMON told me on the phone this morning ´we are transmitting what we THINK we can .some broadcasters do not want THEIR channels on ANY other platform but their own ,so we cannot GUARANTEE ANY CHANNELS in the future RING FILMON LONDON on 0044 207 758 0690

May I ask what your interpretation of the following taken from your link is??

Finally, as regards the questions asked concerning the interpretation of the Copyright Directive, the Court notes first of all that only the opening video sequence, the Premier League anthem, pre-recorded films showing highlights of recent Premier League matches and various graphics can be regarded as ‘works’ and are therefore protected by copyright. By contrast, the matches themselves are not works enjoying such protection.

That being so, the Court decides that transmission in a pub of the broadcasts containing those protected works, such as the opening video sequence or the Premier League anthem, constitutes a ‘communication to the public’ within the meaning of the copyright directive, for which the authorisation of the author of the works is necessary, because when a pub transmits those works to the customers present on the premises the works are transmitted to an additional public which was not considered by the authors when they authorised the broadcasting of their works

What happens with my Freesat box that i get free UKTV on .. who gets paid then..

believe it or not the operative word is FREE, you pay exactly that, Nader.!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freesat

I would imagine you are getting it because of the overspill lobe that covers Iberia at present. However, they are not obliged to make arrangements to retain that coverage when the satellites are changed/moved, even though you have bought (in the UK) an interface box

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Freesat (and Freeview) is an ingenious way to collect revenue for something that is otherwise free.

The Freeview/Freesat system has a proprietary 8-day EPG which facilitates the nice program listings you get on a Freesat box, and the automatic channel updates (when a channel changes to another frequency) and the ability to know when to record your fave programs and all those other features...

All that requires a special little piece of software in every Freesat/Freeview box for it to work. A royalty from each Freesat/Freeview box sold goes to the Freeview business that operates the system. That's why a Freesat box is usually a lot more expensive than the equivalent regular Sat box - the royalty.

If you don't care about those features, most any €20 Satellite receiver will receive almost all the channels you would otherwise receive with a freesat box, without paying for a freesat box (provided you have enough signal to receive it).

The "cheap" sat boxes work just fine and in some cases have far better reception than a freesat box (on our "normal" sat boxes we reliably receive more "weak" UK channels than the freesat boxes). Our "normal" sat boxes are all HD, too. But whilst the "free" HD channels look better, movies and other "good stuff" is mostly found on the standard definition channels. I'm a bit disappointed to see HD channels wasted mostly on game shows, cooking shows, documentaries and soaps.

We have both types of boxes, and I must say the user interface is a lot better on the freesat box. But I mostly use the TV guide app on my android phone to see what programs are playing, so we really don't need it. But on a "regular" sat box, I can only see what's on now, and the next program, and when a channel switches to another satellite frequency, it must be manually updated.

If, like most users, you want to record programmes on a regular basis, the Freesat EPG is an essential requirement.

It's that that justifies the extra cost. Sky charge £10/mth to use the recording facility on a Sky+ box without any subscription.