Sterling/Euro
#16
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Re: Sterling/Euro
The perception in the markets following a Greek default would cause massive uncertainty and chaos.
But I reckon the direct economic effect of Greece leaving the Euro would be nil or even a plus, notwithstanding having paved a path for others to follow. I'd have to believe others would follow, and that would be the nail in the coffin.
But I reckon the direct economic effect of Greece leaving the Euro would be nil or even a plus, notwithstanding having paved a path for others to follow. I'd have to believe others would follow, and that would be the nail in the coffin.
It seems to me that the sensible (undemocratic) way of sorting this is for the EU/Germany to go in and take over the running of the country??
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Re: Sterling/Euro
But what about all the money thats been lent to Greece?? Will they have to pay it back?? Those who bought Greek bonds??? Thats where the mess will be. Will Greece be declared bankrupt? Wil tey still be able to import essential goods? Will they become such a casualty that they will need international aid???
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Re: Sterling/Euro
There is no mechanism for countries to leave the Eurozone, and we are controlled by the markets. If the markets don't like it, they will collapse, like they did in the thirties, and bankers will be leaping out of windows again.
I watched some fat Greek, the leader of the Greek neo Nazis, say on TV something like, 'Foreigners, get out of my country.' The nationalists all over Europe, including the UK, are saying the same thing.
A little man with a funny moustache said it in Germany the last time the markets collapsed, and everybody thought he was just a nutter with only some ten percent of people voting for him, but the ten percent soon turned into eighty percent when the unemployed people became hungry.
I watched some fat Greek, the leader of the Greek neo Nazis, say on TV something like, 'Foreigners, get out of my country.' The nationalists all over Europe, including the UK, are saying the same thing.
A little man with a funny moustache said it in Germany the last time the markets collapsed, and everybody thought he was just a nutter with only some ten percent of people voting for him, but the ten percent soon turned into eighty percent when the unemployed people became hungry.
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Re: Sterling/Euro
There is no mechanism for countries to leave the Eurozone, and we are controlled by the markets. If the markets don't like it, they will collapse, like they did in the thirties, and bankers will be leaping out of windows again.
I watched some fat Greek, the leader of the Greek neo Nazis, say on TV something like, 'Foreigners, get out of my country.' The nationalists all over Europe, including the UK, are saying the same thing.
A little man with a funny moustache said it in Germany the last time the markets collapsed, and everybody thought he was just a nutter with only some ten percent of people voting for him, but the ten percent soon turned into eighty percent when the unemployed people became hungry.
I watched some fat Greek, the leader of the Greek neo Nazis, say on TV something like, 'Foreigners, get out of my country.' The nationalists all over Europe, including the UK, are saying the same thing.
A little man with a funny moustache said it in Germany the last time the markets collapsed, and everybody thought he was just a nutter with only some ten percent of people voting for him, but the ten percent soon turned into eighty percent when the unemployed people became hungry.
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Re: Sterling/Euro
There is no mechanism for countries to leave the Eurozone, and we are controlled by the markets. If the markets don't like it, they will collapse, like they did in the thirties, and bankers will be leaping out of windows again.
I watched some fat Greek, the leader of the Greek neo Nazis, say on TV something like, 'Foreigners, get out of my country.' The nationalists all over Europe, including the UK, are saying the same thing.
A little man with a funny moustache said it in Germany the last time the markets collapsed, and everybody thought he was just a nutter with only some ten percent of people voting for him, but the ten percent soon turned into eighty percent when the unemployed people became hungry.
I watched some fat Greek, the leader of the Greek neo Nazis, say on TV something like, 'Foreigners, get out of my country.' The nationalists all over Europe, including the UK, are saying the same thing.
A little man with a funny moustache said it in Germany the last time the markets collapsed, and everybody thought he was just a nutter with only some ten percent of people voting for him, but the ten percent soon turned into eighty percent when the unemployed people became hungry.
But seriously, we're not at that point ...yet. As Jojo says, it's a different world. But you never know... people do funny things when they're hungry and believe it's the result of an outside force...
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Re: Sterling/Euro
There is no mechanism for countries to leave the Eurozone, and we are controlled by the markets. If the markets don't like it, they will collapse, like they did in the thirties, and bankers will be leaping out of windows again.
I watched some fat Greek, the leader of the Greek neo Nazis, say on TV something like, 'Foreigners, get out of my country.' The nationalists all over Europe, including the UK, are saying the same thing.
A little man with a funny moustache said it in Germany the last time the markets collapsed, and everybody thought he was just a nutter with only some ten percent of people voting for him, but the ten percent soon turned into eighty percent when the unemployed people became hungry.
I watched some fat Greek, the leader of the Greek neo Nazis, say on TV something like, 'Foreigners, get out of my country.' The nationalists all over Europe, including the UK, are saying the same thing.
A little man with a funny moustache said it in Germany the last time the markets collapsed, and everybody thought he was just a nutter with only some ten percent of people voting for him, but the ten percent soon turned into eighty percent when the unemployed people became hungry.
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Re: Sterling/Euro
Bit early (or late?) for you, isn't it?
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Re: Sterling/Euro
I can't speak for your region but in the US there are quite a few americans on BE. What interests me on this thread is that what happens with Europe will likely effect us all. Just putting my bit in, ignore if you see fit. Never been to Kansas. And please don't call me Dorothy.
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Re: Sterling/Euro
I welcome the views of our overseas cousins on Europe, and it just goes to show how important the Euro issue is to non EU members.
The Asian markets fell on the news of the French and Greek elections over the weekend, the whole world is watching.
The Asian markets fell on the news of the French and Greek elections over the weekend, the whole world is watching.
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Well they do say that every cloud has a silver lining.
Problem is, that unlike the rest of us, they'll likely land on a great thick mattress stuffed full of Bin Ladins.
Problem is, that unlike the rest of us, they'll likely land on a great thick mattress stuffed full of Bin Ladins.
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#29
Re: Sterling/Euro
When the debt ridden countries in latin america and africa were bailed out their debt was written off as foreign aid. IMHO charity begins at home and Greece deserves similar compassion from the IMF.
It seems this time the (jack)boot is on the other foot?
In the mid-20th century, the 1953 Agreement on German External Debts, which substantially reduced German's war reparations, is a notable example of international debt relief. Part of the reasoning was that German's World War I reparations were deeply resented in Germany, and credited internationally as a cause of World War II, and thus debt relief helped reconciliation and peace in Europe.
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Re: Sterling/Euro
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