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Fredbargate May 25th 2012 9:54 pm

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 

Originally Posted by Relampago (Post 10083115)
Spain cannot go to United Nations Convention Of The Law Of The Sea, because going to that place is like to recognize that Gibraltar is a country, and Gibraltar is not a country, is a colony. It is evidently that this is a trap of Gibraltar

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

jimenato May 25th 2012 10:58 pm

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 
For info a map of Territorial waters around Gibraltar:

http://www.gibnet.com/fish/waters.gif

Some points of interest:

Spain claims a 12 mile limit, Gibraltar only three.

Spain claims a vast area of sea 12 miles around Ceuta

The limit to the west of Gibraltar is less than three miles - it runs down the centre of the bay.

jackytoo May 25th 2012 11:10 pm

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 
Thanks for that, interesting:) How come that Spain got all that around morocco:huh:

Fredbargate May 26th 2012 1:13 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 
I think you will find that Spain has more than is shown on that map.
She claims fishing rights around the small islands / rocks she has near the Moroccan coast.

fatbrit May 26th 2012 1:32 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10083200)
Thanks for that, interesting:) How come that Spain got all that around morocco:huh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceuta

agoreira May 26th 2012 3:01 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10082497)
Maybe,
The fact is that but for the Moors bringing with them all their knowledge and know-how, the Spanish might well still be living in caves,.... though I suppose a few of them still do. ;)

The Moors and the Jews, between them they made Spain what it was. Without their input, they might well be living in caves. Shortest book ever written, Spanish Inventions. I expect we'll get the usual few offered, (submarine????) but really they invented very, very little. They left that all to their fellow Europeans, as Unamuno said, ¡Que inventen ellos! ;)

Dick Dasterdly May 26th 2012 3:28 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10083400)
The Moors and the Jews, between them they made Spain what it was. Without their input, they might well be living in caves. Shortest book ever written, Spanish Inventions. I expect we'll get the usual few offered, (submarine????) but really they invented very, very little. They left that all to their fellow Europeans, as Unamuno said, ¡Que inventen ellos! ;)


Steady on ag. I think you're being a bit harsh there.

I mean they did invent glass bottom boats, so they could view their Navy sitting on the sea-bed. ;)

rugbymatt May 26th 2012 3:31 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 
Relampago is gonna turn up in such a huffy later!

Madridboy May 26th 2012 3:32 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10083434)
Steady on ag. I think you're being a bit harsh there.

I mean they did invent glass bottom boats, so they could view their Navy sitting on the sea-bed. ;)

:rofl::rofl::rofl: I'm goint to use that one.

JLFS May 26th 2012 4:00 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10083400)
The Moors and the Jews, between them they made Spain what it was. Without their input, they might well be living in caves. Shortest book ever written, Spanish Inventions. I expect we'll get the usual few offered, (submarine????) but really they invented very, very little. They left that all to their fellow Europeans, as Unamuno said, ¡Que inventen ellos! ;)

We also invented TDV..........

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HBG May 26th 2012 4:06 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 
The good old Vikings got there long before the others. They rowed and raped and pillaged, and even stayed for a while if the women were pretty.

Having rowed all over the place, quite a few of them settled in Scotland. I've always wondered why. Surely it wasn't because up there even the men walk about in skirts?

Fredbargate May 26th 2012 4:38 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 
After a quiet time last night ( was there a football match or something ) an armed Spanish vessel has just made a provocative run through Gib's waters.

Dick Dasterdly May 26th 2012 5:32 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10083500)
After a quiet time last night ( was there a football match or something ) an armed Spanish vessel has just made a provocative run through Gib's waters.

I presume by that, you mean they had half a dozen tasty topless birds sitting out on deck. :thumbup:

VFR May 26th 2012 5:32 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 
The assumption that Spain owns/can control the waters directly in front of Gib is absurd & would any other country (call it what you will) allow this particularly if its a port, let alone a military based one (or used to be)

To allow this would in effect close the port to all traffic unless permission is granted in the worse case.

IMO the UK should simply sell the bloody place back to the Spanish as it would fetch a tidy few billions.

Dick Dasterdly May 26th 2012 5:37 am

Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
 

Originally Posted by playamonte (Post 10083553)

IMO the UK should simply sell the bloody place back to the Spanish as it would fetch a tidy few billions.

Wait a minute,where's the Spaniards gonna get a few billions from, when they haven't even got a penny to scratch their arses ?

They could turn to Santander UK I suppose,seeing how they're not normally too fussed about breaking a few regulations. :cool:


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