Originally Posted by Relampago (Post 10082463)

Denying the iIslamic history is your script, I have not denied anything, I spoke of an invasion, where they fought against this invasion, and this is to deny something? UK was simply a province of the Roman Empire, nothing else. The jewel of the Roman Empire was called Hispania. Many caesars were born here, like Trajan, or Hadrian (who was who had built a great wall in northern Britain). Spanish philosopher Seneca was to service of the emperor Nero, and was born in Hispalis, currently Seville. Hispanics are the only or one of the few ancient people converted to Roman citizenship, and forged for the roman army weapons as the Gladius Hispaniense (known by experts as the " ancient spanish sword ") which is the one used by the Roman army, when in the second war punic the Hispanic mercenaries rend them with these swords. The hispanics, the best forgers of weapons

You can see this sword in the movie " Gladiator "
http://www.filmsquish.com/guts/files...s/commodus.JPG

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10082468)

Funny how many spaniards want to deny their strong Moorish background...is it a racist thing:confused:

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10082492)

well none of those are moorish

got any more - Charlize or similar ?

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10082468)

Funny how many spaniards want to deny their strong Moorish background...is it a racist thing:confused:

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10082497)

Maybe,
The fact is that but for the Moors bringing with them all their knowledge and know-how, the Spanish might well still be living in caves,.... though I suppose a few of them still do. ;)

Strange that when the Moors were driven out or on the point of leaving the Spanish insisted that one Moorish family remain behind in each of many villages, because without them they didn't have a clue with regard to agriculture and many other important aspects of every day living.

Originally Posted by Relampago (Post 10082209)

To answer all the nonsense I'm reading ...

1) Gibraltar has no territorial waters of their own, this is in the Treaty of Utrecht, only the waters of its harbor. Then why they bother to the Spanish fishermen?

Originally Posted by Relampago (Post 10082209)

To answer all the nonsense I'm reading ...

4) The Gibraltarians always are british while they are considered as tax haven.

Originally Posted by Lenox (Post 10082954)

"The Catholic King, does for Himself, His Heirs and Successors yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire property of the City and Castle of Gibraltar together with the port, defences and fortifications belonging thereto. And he give up the said property to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manners of right for ever without any exception or impediment whatsoever"
Spain says that it is only observing the Treaty of Utrecht (funny how it refers to the treaty when it wants to).
'Estamos defendiendo una legalidad marcada por el Tratado de Utrecht sobre unas aguas que corresponden al Estado español', said Spain's vice-president yesterday.
The same treaty, splendid document that it no doubt is, also stipulates that neither Jews nor Muslims may sleep overnight in Gibraltar.
I wonder if they still insist on that particular rule...?

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10082939)

At the time of the Treaty of Utrecht no country had territorial waters, that is why there is no mention in the Treaty

In those days if someone came too close to your coast in a hostile manner they received a cannon ball.

Spain refuses to accept the UNITED NATIONS CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF THE SEA only in respect of Gibraltar

Originally Posted by Lenox (Post 10083101)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCqq...feature=colike John Pilger's documentary of how the Brits tossed out the inhabitants of Diego Garcia.
Power, hey?