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pete_l Feb 10th 2010 12:17 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 
Not forgetting the way the spanish are changing life in britain, too.
British Airport Authority are owned by a spanish construction company
O2 are owned by Telefonica
a large chunk of the british banking industry is owned by Santander

It's increasingly unrealistic to think / expect that countries (and obviously) their peoples don't have an effect on other countries, and their peoples. I have a sneaking suspicion that the individuals (of whatever nationality) who object to this are really just resistant to change - no matter what form it takes. Nationalism / xenophobia is just the most visible manifestation of it.

cricketman Feb 10th 2010 12:21 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8329684)
Not me, your generalising:thumbdown: I speak Spanish ,employ them and socialise with them and never use Brit bars,resturants,shops etc:thumbsup:

The EU DID/IS STILL TRYING to drag Spain into the 21st century

It's like talking to a brick wall :rofl:

Of course I'm generalising, isnt that the point of the whole thread!

Once someone looks at individual stories of immigrants (like that of manamama's) you'll find they're not such scary people after all. All I'm saying is the same goes for Brits in Spain as for Asians in the UK.

johncar61 Feb 10th 2010 12:24 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by pete_l (Post 8329685)
Not forgetting the way the spanish are changing life in britain, too.

a large chunk of the british banking industry is owned by Santander

.

Interesting that you mention Spanish influence on bank in k. I will post a warning about that in a new thread.

Rotor Feb 10th 2010 2:28 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8329696)
It's like talking to a brick wall :rofl:

Of course I'm generalising, isnt that the point of the whole thread!

Once someone looks at individual stories of immigrants (like that of manamama's) you'll find they're not such scary people after all. All I'm saying is the same goes for Brits in Spain as for Asians in the UK.

As usual you missed the point:rofl:

manamama Feb 10th 2010 2:39 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8330056)
As usual you missed the point:rofl:

Is your point about Muslim extremism in the UK - Or am I wrong?

Most of this thread is discussing immigrants who are geniune and choosing to move for a better/different life.

It's all getting cross purposed.

bil Feb 10th 2010 4:16 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 
I think it is as simple as this. An immigrant should remember that they are a guest, and a guest should do their best to fit in and not make a nuisance of themselves.

A host should remember that guests are at a disadvantage, and allowances should be made for them.

A guest should not take advantage of that and abuse the help offered.

johncar61 Feb 10th 2010 4:46 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 8330322)
I think it is as simple as this. An immigrant should remember that they are a guest, and a guest should do their best to fit in and not make a nuisance of themselves.

A host should remember that guests are at a disadvantage, and allowances should be made for them.

A guest should not take advantage of that and abuse the help offered.

Good advice Bil but what about EU citizens, we are not guests in any EU country.

bil Feb 10th 2010 4:56 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by johncar61 (Post 8330388)
Good advice Bil but what about EU citizens, we are not guests in any EU country.

I think we are. Even if we work, pay taxes and so on, I still think it behoves us to be polite. You go to live in another EU country, you should still try and fit in, to integrate.

The UK has had some blindingly stupid policies concerning immigrants. We should have insisted long ago that immigrants had to be able to support themselves, learn the language and stay out of trouble, and if not, - out you go.

cricketman Feb 10th 2010 5:16 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 8330408)
The UK has had some blindingly stupid policies concerning immigrants. We should have insisted long ago that immigrants had to be able to support themselves, learn the language and stay out of trouble, and if not, - out you go.

Would you apply the same rules in Spain?

They'd be hardly any Brits left :rofl:

Madridboy Feb 10th 2010 5:18 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8330468)
Would you apply the same rules in Spain?

They'd be hardly any Brits left :rofl:

Would that be a bad thing? :rofl:

cricketman Feb 10th 2010 5:29 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by Madridboy (Post 8330472)
Would that be a bad thing? :rofl:

Depends on whether they throw me out or not :D

bil Feb 10th 2010 5:32 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8330468)
Would you apply the same rules in Spain?

They'd be hardly any Brits left :rofl:

Well, I remember to listening to one person in Spain who was bitching on about the immigrants in the UK who didn't speak English etc etc etc.

Needless to say she spoke no Spanish.

Ahhh, how I love the smell of irony in the mornings.......

AdrianTO Feb 10th 2010 6:13 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 8330507)
Well, I remember to listening to one person in Spain who was bitching on about the immigrants in the UK who didn't speak English etc etc etc.

Needless to say she spoke no Spanish.

Ahhh, how I love the smell of irony in the mornings.......

Yes, this is what I find most ironic about this thread. British immigrants in Spain complaining about their own country being over run by immigrants.

Give me a break. The only reason there aren't more brits in Spain is because they can't afford to live here, and yet many still come over hoping to find scraps and work dead end jobs that pay 5 Euros an hour just so that they can "live in the sun". Then they come and complain on these boards endlessly about how Spain is not foreigner friendly and they can't get a job etc.. as though it is their birth right.

And yet they all claim to being trying to "integrate into Spanish life". How many of you speak fluent Spanish? Sure, some Brits do try and integrate, but the majority don't. And yet, it is these ones that don't, who complain the loudest about immigrants back home.

jackytoo Feb 10th 2010 6:44 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 
Judging by posts on the forum 99% speak good spanish:rofl: They are all inegrated too!

coultrm Feb 10th 2010 7:10 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 8330674)
Judging by posts on the forum 99% speak good spanish:rofl: They are all inegrated too!

Hi are you telepathic, could you tell from their posts?:huh:

Yer! English speak 'good Spanish' , many can just about speak English, I suspect they know a few swear works and how to order a coffee or a beer.


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