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manamama Feb 18th 2010 3:45 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 
The kids up here love Hannah Montana and Jonas Bros...Rhianna etc.

I have noticed that all the shops, especially clothes shops just play English music not spanish at all.

~Once you're away from the costas you realise that Spanish culture is very strong and different to our British culture in so many ways. Not a drop of British / American culture here at all.

As for speaking English, most parents I know want their kids to speak it and (another language). They realise that they will get a better job with it.

lynnxa Feb 18th 2010 4:03 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by manamama (Post 8354836)


As for speaking English, most parents I know want their kids to speak it and (another language). They realise that they will get a better job with it.

yes, but in addition to their native language, not instead of

Madridboy Feb 18th 2010 4:22 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8354823)
Thanks SaritaBarcelona for highlighting the passion that languages hold for people in Spain and their link to culture.

If the English language ever became a threat to Spanish culture (and I dont think it will) then Spain will react just like the Catalans have and force schools to teach only in Spanish and force shops to have Spanish speakers, menus, signs etc.

Language is part of culture and part of identities. It is why Spanish, Catalan, Basque and Gallego will not die out in Spain. Spanish people are incredibly proud of their local identity. For Christ sake, it was partly what the civil war was about!

And btw, the Catalans have done very well economically despite having very pro-Catalan politics

Showing films in Catalan only didn´t go down very well lately though did it. It is good that they are passionate about their language and culture, the boss was quite pleased when I turned up to work in a Barça T-shirt as well, he´s from Barcelona. :D

jojojojojojojojojojojojo Feb 18th 2010 5:01 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8354603)
Sorry Jo, but this is nonsense.

I worked to help set up a well known online music store in Spain. As I said previously, around 70% of all music sold in Spain is from Spanish artists and even more than that is from Spanish-speaking artists (Latin America).

English speaking songs get a higher proportion of airplay on the radio because their record companies pay for it to try and increase sales in Spain. Plus I've noticed half the radio stations in the CDS are English!

Spanish kids like English speaking TV shows, films and music because they are exposed to it such a lot, but they are even more crazy about Spanish celebrities. They can relate to them much more.

In my daughters class at school there is one girl who likes "spanish" music and is teased mercilessly by the rest of the class about it. The rest are all heavily into english/american rap, rock.

I've just asked my daughter who is 13 and goes to a state school and she says: "The Boys in my class like "guns and roses and the girls like Craig David, Jay Sean, Ke$ha.......Some of the girls quite like Alejandro Sanchez but thats only cos he sings with Alicia Keeys. Most of the kids in my class hate Spanish music and singers! -Apart from this one girl....." who interestingly has an English mother!!!

The films they're all raving about at the mo are "New Moon", Twilight saga and Avatar. They went to see Avatar (the english version too) last Saturday - typical european kids.

And actually, I listen to "Europa FM" which is spanish and I'd say that three quarters of the songs they play are English/american


Jo xxx

jojojojojojojojojojojojo Feb 18th 2010 5:09 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 
......... I sometimes think I live in a different "Spain" to others on here!?? LOL. Is it cos I have teenage kids who integrate with Spanish teenage kids??

Jo xxx

manamama Feb 18th 2010 5:59 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojojojojojojojojo (Post 8355036)
......... I sometimes think I live in a different "Spain" to others on here!?? LOL. Is it cos I have teenage kids who integrate with Spanish teenage kids??

Jo xxx

You're just more aware of what teenagers are into at the moment. ..:lol:

Probably when my kids are teenagers it will be different again.

When we were teenagers, did our parents know what we were into? Usually no..not mine anyway...:eek:

cricketman Feb 18th 2010 7:34 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojojojojojojojojo (Post 8355036)
......... I sometimes think I live in a different "Spain" to others on here!?? LOL. Is it cos I have teenage kids who integrate with Spanish teenage kids??

Jo xxx

Maybe so, the Spanish people I know are in their 20s and 30s. And the Spanish bars I go to which play mainly Spanish music are obviously for over 18s.

Still, the point in the same. Spanish people are definitely not Aglo-American wannabes. Maybe the latest generation who have grown up on disney channel are more so. We'll wait and see how they turn out.

I remember when I was teenager me and my friends liked everythign American, but by the time we hit 16-18, all the bands we liked were British as we were discovering our identity. Perhaps the same will happen to these Spanish kids you know.

SaritaBarcelona Feb 18th 2010 7:53 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 
Purlease don't let that happen! I can't bear the thought of MTV clones everywhere you look (I will admit that it is happening but eventually kids grow out of it, I used to love Wham for heavens sake but now love salsa music!). Re the Catalan thing, they are so economically well-off because of the whole Catalan culture of saving, keeping it in the family, Protestant-style work ethic, etc. (By the way, do the Brits still have a Protestant work ethic? I think that is definitely something that is dying out!) The Basque Country is another wealthy region, they are definitely another breed! (and I mean that in a nice way)

jojojojojojojojojojojojo Feb 18th 2010 7:56 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8355375)
Maybe so, the Spanish people I know are in their 20s and 30s. And the Spanish bars I go to which play mainly Spanish music are obviously for over 18s.

Still, the point in the same. Spanish people are definitely not Aglo-American wannabes. Maybe the latest generation who have grown up on disney channel are more so. We'll wait and see how they turn out.

I remember when I was teenager me and my friends liked everythign American, but by the time we hit 16-18, all the bands we liked were British as we were discovering our identity. Perhaps the same will happen to these Spanish kids you know.


Mercadona music, Plaza Mayor music, La Cañada music, clothes shops music, Spanish music channel, Spanish radio stations.....Bars around here that have the music channel on Its by far and away english/american pop music thats played.

I'm obviously in a different Spain arent I!

Jo xxx

Mitzyboy Feb 18th 2010 9:58 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by manamama (Post 8355143)
You're just more aware of what teenagers are into at the moment. ..:lol:

Probably when my kids are teenagers it will be different again.

When we were teenagers, did our parents know what we were into? Usually no..not mine anyway...:eek:

I often go to music concerts with my daughter:);)

SaritaBarcelona Feb 18th 2010 10:02 am

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 
What does she think about Dad cramping her style?! Only kidding!

jojojojojojojojojojojojo Feb 18th 2010 5:46 pm

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 8355795)
I often go to music concerts with my daughter:);)

I used to go with my grown up daughters when they were teenagers who were actually more into "my" kinda music than the teenage stuff - Bon jovi etc.

In fact my 15 yo son is flying over to England in the Spring with a friend to go to a "Kiss" concert - My OH is going with them!!

Jo xxx

Bigger Jim Feb 18th 2010 6:27 pm

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 8354090)
Yep, more than English according to Wiki:lol:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ative_speakers:

Wiki not yet happy with article.

1 The neutrality of this article is disputed.

2 This article's factual accuracy is disputed.

Jim

cricketman Feb 18th 2010 8:15 pm

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojojojojojojojojo (Post 8355470)
Mercadona music, Plaza Mayor music, La Cañada music, clothes shops music, Spanish music channel, Spanish radio stations.....Bars around here that have the music channel on Its by far and away english/american pop music thats played.

I'm obviously in a different Spain arent I!

Jo xxx

Yes maybe slightly ;)

The Spanish video music channel they tend to have on in the bars is Latino40 (or something like that). Almost all Spanish speaking music.

The most popular radio station in Spain is Los 40 principales, which is probably 50:50. The music in the shops is quite often mainly English speaking I agree.

Like I said, what is on the radio isnt so indicative anyway as airtime is bought by the record labels. I've seen the sales figures and Spanish people still buy mainly Spanish music.

Rotor Feb 18th 2010 10:11 pm

Re: A Life in the UK or Spain?
 

Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8356809)
Wiki not yet happy with article.

1 The neutrality of this article is disputed.

2 This article's factual accuracy is disputed.

Jim

By who and why?


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