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Fred James Mar 30th 2013 5:05 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10632222)
the main thing that is free is your continual advertising on BE Spain

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You may think so but his free advertising is so effective, that even after reading all his posts, I haven't the slightest idea what he is selling.

If I had, I might do something about it.

EMR Mar 30th 2013 5:10 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 
What ever you post is irrelevant or just smokescreen

i) SKY GO is conditional on having a Sky account which is conditional on meeting the terms and conditions of the SKY agreement.
2) iF you actually believe what you post then I suggest that you get those you know using SKY to call them explain that they are having connection issues, give Sky their exact location and then let us know what SKY do.
To log onto a SKY GO you have to give your SKY account number, name and UK POST CODE. ( SKY installation address ) Since when did Tenerife, or Hong Kong or wherever have UK Post Codes ???? .
If overseas viewers can get a SKY account directly from SKY why use third party installers ???.

Fred James Mar 30th 2013 5:26 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10632380)
To log onto a SKY GO you have to give your SKY account number, name and UK POST CODE.

Yes you do but as Sky subscribers are allowed to have two devices connected to their account they can easily agree to "share" one with you and give you their account details.

Of course you do need to use one of the illegal VPNs to allow you to connect.

EMR Mar 30th 2013 5:31 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 
So is that what some are selling, a proxy ( illegal ) VPN to connect to SKY GO ????. Not that anyone on this site would know about this of course.

Fred James Mar 30th 2013 5:45 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 
I was joking about the "illegal" VPNs. VPNs are not illegal. Using one might be depending on what you are using it for but that's another issue.

All I was saying is that if you have family or friends in the UK with a Sky subscription it is very easy to share their Sky Go or even Sky Go+ subscription.

It does have limitations such as the output from your laptop cannot be via HDMI or with an iPad/iPhone it will not connect via Airplay using an Apple TV but clearly it will be an attractive option for some who don't wish to pay(legally or otherwise) for a full Sky subscription.

The reason Sky put in the connectivity blocks is that they don't want you to use it on another TV (Multi Room for £10 is their preferred choice for that) but they are happy for the family to watch it on their iPad etc.

Jon-Bxl Mar 30th 2013 7:00 pm

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by cleverdic (Post 10631945)
I tend to agree with your concerns about the possible costing model.
It's another reason to give the Slingbox option serious consideration for people that can install the box back in the UK.

V happy with my slingbox.......... heard a good tip though. Put it on a timer and once a day power it off a few mins (say 2am when sleeping). This way it resets if there is a glitch when you are away and dont want to trouble a friend to pop in to do it. I have been away from home, out of the country for over a month and yesterday my friend had to reset it, so it can happen from time to time. So its a good tip.

I have a friend in the UK that will let me put my Humax box in a spare room - or another who will let me double up his settop box in a spare room if I want UKTV via another slingbox. I bought the SOLO from amazon, only 80 quid and well worth it. I am happy with SD TV when away from home - and it uses less internet bandwidth speed and less Gbytes**. Just have to figure out the internet issues mentioned before

Jon

** BTW I would go as far as saying that the cheaper SD box (=Solo) is better than the HD box. Especially when traveling in 'dodgy internet' areas - where you may not have the bandwidth etc. Or you dont want to use up someones GB's. Id rather have a good SD picture than a possibly blocked excellent HD one.

BAT7311 Mar 31st 2013 8:57 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10632380)
What ever you post is irrelevant or just smokescreen

i) SKY GO is conditional on having a Sky account which is conditional on meeting the terms and conditions of the SKY agreement.
2) iF you actually believe what you post then I suggest that you get those you know using SKY to call them explain that they are having connection issues, give Sky their exact location and then let us know what SKY do.
To log onto a SKY GO you have to give your SKY account number, name and UK POST CODE. ( SKY installation address ) Since when did Tenerife, or Hong Kong or wherever have UK Post Codes ???? .
If overseas viewers can get a SKY account directly from SKY why use third party installers ???.

1. which is SUBJECT to the LAW the Court of Justice holds that national legislation which
prohibits the import, sale or use of foreign decoder cards is contrary to the freedom to
provide services and cannot be justified

... which means putting NO BLACK PEOPLE in a contact dont make it a legal clause because THE LAW says it is not
writing I owe you five quid on a fag packet is a contract ... dont make out its the ten commandments THE LAW IS THE LAW
2 to get sky go you put in your password (your ID is already stored on a cookie)
no name,no uk postcode,no installation address ???
try it
https://skyid.sky.com/signin/skygo?success
SKY GO ids are issued by SKY AGENTS in the UK - i never said you can get SKY in spain I said you can now WATCH sky legally in SPAIN

back in the 80´s when computers were not as good the subscrition data was send to an outside firm and came back with the shocking result that large numbers of females over retirement age had SKY SPORTS ...it raised quite a laugh when someone said that BAOR had some wonderful grandmothers .
also the credit cards - the number of NON UK credit cards paying for sky is quite high ...no one has EVER asked why that is the case
even had some in ARABIC and the fuss was over the blokes name ...no one ever said hang on ....

BAT7311 Mar 31st 2013 9:01 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10632397)
Yes you do but as Sky subscribers are allowed to have two devices connected to their account they can easily agree to "share" one with you and give you their account details.

Of course you do need to use one of the illegal VPNs to allow you to connect.

VPNS are like lot of british people driving down a spanish motorway being diverted down an english country lane,very soon it gets slower and slower with traffic buiding up
DNS is like driving down the same motorway but BBC/SKY only allow YELLOW CARS to watch its programs .DNS paints your car yellow so you can get thru

BAT7311 Mar 31st 2013 9:06 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10632424)
I was joking about the "illegal" VPNs. VPNs are not illegal. Using one might be depending on what you are using it for but that's another issue.

All I was saying is that if you have family or friends in the UK with a Sky subscription it is very easy to share their Sky Go or even Sky Go+ subscription.

It does have limitations such as the output from your laptop cannot be via HDMI or with an iPad/iPhone it will not connect via Airplay using an Apple TV but clearly it will be an attractive option for some who don't wish to pay(legally or otherwise) for a full Sky subscription.

The reason Sky put in the connectivity blocks is that they don't want you to use it on another TV (Multi Room for £10 is their preferred choice for that) but they are happy for the family to watch it on their iPad etc.

to make SKYGO work with APPLE TV and IPAD you just need to install a UK VPN and download the app .then take off the VPN ,and change the default DNS in your IPAD ...
ALL the netbooks we sell are connected via a HDMI lead to the tv sets

if you have family or friends with sky go that is good but THEY are paying for it so its not FREE

BAT7311 Mar 31st 2013 9:15 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10632403)
So is that what some are selling, a proxy ( illegal ) VPN to connect to SKY GO ????. Not that anyone on this site would know about this of course.

here is a free on ,if you want another i have lots you can have for nothing
http://www.getukvpn.com/

we stopped using VPNS over a year ago ,and have never used them for SKY

Loco Mar 31st 2013 11:28 am

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 
You tell others to understand the Law.

With the greatest respect YOU should understand the Law and if YOU do YOU will know quoting just a paragraph from this Judgement is highly misleading .

Just look at the last two paragraphs of the Judgement !


Best

Loco



[QUOTE=BAT7311;10632339]part A is ILLEGAL since
http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp110102en.pdf
In its judgment delivered today, the Court of Justice holds that national legislation which
prohibits the import, sale or use of foreign decoder cards is contrary to the freedom to
provide services and cannot be justified e

Loco Mar 31st 2013 12:09 pm

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 
BTW I notice on your website you claim to have a solution that to qoute you

"take the DIRECT LINKS from the BBC/ITV themselves and ´´using magic´´ allow you to watch them ."


What " Magic" powers do you have !

I would love to have them.


Regards

Loco

EMR Mar 31st 2013 7:33 pm

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 
I doubt that there are any legal Sky agents in the UK with authority from SKY to provide a SKY UK service ( TV and SKY GO ) outside of the UK. SKY UK's broadcasting remit is limited to the UK.
What BAT calls SKY agents are in fact the same as the third party re broadcasters or those SAT installers in Spain etc.
Anyone who reads any of BATS responses today remember it is April Fools Day.

BAT7311 Mar 31st 2013 11:11 pm

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by Loco (Post 10634034)
BTW I notice on your website you claim to have a solution that to qoute you

"take the DIRECT LINKS from the BBC/ITV themselves and ´´using magic´´ allow you to watch them ."


What " Magic" powers do you have !

I would love to have them.


Regards

Loco

sorry i am not allowed to advertise here .. but it is not real magic ;)

BAT7311 Mar 31st 2013 11:22 pm

Re: Goodbye Sky TV
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10634343)
I doubt that there are any legal Sky agents in the UK with authority from SKY to provide a SKY UK service ( TV and SKY GO ) outside of the UK. SKY UK's broadcasting remit is limited to the UK.
What BAT calls SKY agents are in fact the same as the third party re broadcasters or those SAT installers in Spain etc.
Anyone who reads any of BATS responses today remember it is April Fools Day.

i say the same thing again NO ONE IS SELLING SKY OUTSIDE THE UK
people BUY SKY IN THE UK and WATCH IT IN SPAIN its very very simple and totally legal since the ECJ ruled it was so ... and again THERE ARE NO SATELLITE BOXS OR DISHS NO INSTALLERS . just a man putting a code into his laptop ..
the OFFICAL SKY AGENTS are not supplying anything to spain ...there must be thousands of people doing the same with their own SKY GO codes ...i really dont understand why you are so upset?? SKY GET PAID ,THE AGENTS GET PAID I GET PAID, THE CUSTOMERS exercise their LEGAL right to FREE MOVEMENT OF GOOD AND SERVICES under the treaty of rome ,ratified by the ECJ

and as for 1/4 i will not make any jokes as its a UK holiday and im in spain so dont want to be seen to import it without permission ....:D


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