Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 10594925)

Have you seen the above posting on the main Spain forum - apparently the EU ourts have backed an application from ITV Plc to ban live IPTV straeming over the internet! So - no satellite and no IPTV for ex-pats, just local language transmissions :mad:

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 10595015)

Well if I knew that then I would be winning the lottery each week.:)

Channels you can and will receive depend on:
your location, your dish size, and which satellite and beams the broadcasters put their channels on.
For example, for all I know, you may lose Discovery, but keep Discovery+1, you may lose Sky Sports 1, but keep Sky Sports 1HD..
Until it happens, no-one will know for sure....

However, expect the main BBC ITV C4 and Fives (which are all free and nothing to do with the Sky or need a subscription for) will be on the UK beams of the new satellites, and may mean either an upgrade to a larger dish, or a MUCH larger dish, or loss of the channels altogether via satellite in a location unless you have a very silly sized dish...

The hundreds of Sky Pay channels are spread over various beams over the various satellites. Generally most of these are expected to be on the "European beams" of the satellite, so reception should be unaffected and as it is today. But also, some Sky pay channels may move to the UK beam and reception will be similar to BBC etc. (like before where some Sky Sports and Nick and Disney channels were on the UK beam).
On the other hand, some Sky channels reception will (and has) improved with recent satellite shuffle. Some channels which were unavailable 24/7 even on 2,.4m dishes in some areas, especially the "north beam" channels, like Sky Sports News, are now available 24/7 even on an 80cm dish.

Other free channels - like True Movies and CBS are not on Astra satellites at all, but on another satellite - eutelsat28a - and are expected to remain on that satellite so not expecting any changes.

Originally Posted by Chiclanagir (Post 10595065)

Fox? (Walking the Dead) Sky Atlantic (Boardwalk Empire)?

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 10595118)

Again - who knows...
But it would harm their revenues if they make too many channels unavailable in Europe....

Originally Posted by olivia (Post 10595495)

How do they serve Gibralter? with UK TV?

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 10595787)

The UK broadcasters are under NO obligation to serve Gibralter.

They only have obligations to serve the UK and ROI - not an "overseas territory" like Gib.

So it makes no difference to the broadcasters if the signal reaches Gib or not, they have no obligation to make those signals available to Gib.
Just like Spain, Gib gets UK TV from the satellite by any available "signal overspill".

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 10596718)

Why the ROI and not just N Ireland ?

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 10595787)

The UK broadcasters are under NO obligation to serve Gibralter.

They only have obligations to serve the UK and ROI - not an "overseas territory" like Gib.

So it makes no difference to the broadcasters if the signal reaches Gib or not, they have no obligation to make those signals available to Gib.
Just like Spain, Gib gets UK TV from the satellite by any available "signal overspill".

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 10596800)

Have you seen the size of the dishes used by the TV operations in Gib they must be at least 7m diameter!

Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 10596800)

Have you seen the size of the dishes used by the TV operations in Gib they must be at least 7m diameter!

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 10596718)

Why the ROI and not just N Ireland ?

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10597131)

I believe the one that is used to pilot the satellites is either 11 or 14 meters

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 10597356)

Thanks I thought that would be the case re ROI

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 10595025)

It is not "a ban live IPTV straeming over the internet".
It is streaming content without permission.
That's a BIG difference.

And although the main case is about a webbased streaming service (TVC) , it is unclear if that actually covers IPTV providers, which is not exactly webbased.

And it does not affected VPN / proxies - as they are not webstreaming services, simply IP address services.