Gibraltar
#139
UN Fourth Committee produces convoluted draft ‘decision’ for Gibraltar talks
In what displays all the signs of agonised negotiation between UK and Spain, the United Nations decolonisation body, the Fourth Committee, has issued its most convoluted and caveated draft ‘decision’ on Gibraltar to date.
The draft ‘decision’ which is likely to follow the practice of being adopted without a vote later this year, reiterates the usual call for both UK and Spain to reach a solution to the “question of Gibraltar†in the spirit of the 1984 Brussels Agreement.
But the novelty is that it takes note of the currently sensitive stance taken respectively by the British and Spanish sides over talks – tripartite v quadripartite, dead or alive.
Whilst urging an agreement to be reached “listening to the interests and aspirations of Gibraltar†it adds that these should be interests and aspirations that are “legitimate under international lawâ€.
The new draft decision reads:
“The General Assembly, recalling its decision 67/530 of 18 December 2012: (a) Urges the Governments of Spain and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, while listening to the interests and aspirations of Gibraltar that are legitimate under international law, to reach, in the spirit of the Brussels Declaration of 27 November 1984, a definitive solution to the question of Gibraltar, in the light of the relevant resolutions of the General Assembly and applicable principles, and in the spirit of the Charter of the United Nations; (b) Takes note of the desire of the United Kingdom to continue with the trilateral Forum for Dialogue on Gibraltar; (c) Takes note of the position of Spain that the Forum does not exist any longer and should be replaced with a new mechanism for local cooperation in the interest of social well-being and regional economic development, in which the people of the Campo de Gibraltar and Gibraltar are represented; (d) Takes note of efforts made by both parties to resolve current problems and to engage in a flexible and responsive form of dialogue between all relevant and appropriate parties, on an informal ad hoc basis, in order to find common solutions and make progress on issues of mutual benefit.â€
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=31355
In what displays all the signs of agonised negotiation between UK and Spain, the United Nations decolonisation body, the Fourth Committee, has issued its most convoluted and caveated draft ‘decision’ on Gibraltar to date.
The draft ‘decision’ which is likely to follow the practice of being adopted without a vote later this year, reiterates the usual call for both UK and Spain to reach a solution to the “question of Gibraltar†in the spirit of the 1984 Brussels Agreement.
But the novelty is that it takes note of the currently sensitive stance taken respectively by the British and Spanish sides over talks – tripartite v quadripartite, dead or alive.
Whilst urging an agreement to be reached “listening to the interests and aspirations of Gibraltar†it adds that these should be interests and aspirations that are “legitimate under international lawâ€.
The new draft decision reads:
“The General Assembly, recalling its decision 67/530 of 18 December 2012: (a) Urges the Governments of Spain and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, while listening to the interests and aspirations of Gibraltar that are legitimate under international law, to reach, in the spirit of the Brussels Declaration of 27 November 1984, a definitive solution to the question of Gibraltar, in the light of the relevant resolutions of the General Assembly and applicable principles, and in the spirit of the Charter of the United Nations; (b) Takes note of the desire of the United Kingdom to continue with the trilateral Forum for Dialogue on Gibraltar; (c) Takes note of the position of Spain that the Forum does not exist any longer and should be replaced with a new mechanism for local cooperation in the interest of social well-being and regional economic development, in which the people of the Campo de Gibraltar and Gibraltar are represented; (d) Takes note of efforts made by both parties to resolve current problems and to engage in a flexible and responsive form of dialogue between all relevant and appropriate parties, on an informal ad hoc basis, in order to find common solutions and make progress on issues of mutual benefit.â€
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=31355
#143
Yes they were here for a couple of hours, however the lunch in Spain lasted 3 hours.
What problems? Spain ensured the traffic flow was quick and fluid on the day.
Non expected in our lifetimes.
What problems? Spain ensured the traffic flow was quick and fluid on the day.
Non expected in our lifetimes.
#144
Spanish left slams ‘senseless’ border checks
Spain’s left wing party Izquierda Unida has slated the Spanish government’s decision to intensify checks at the border with Gibraltar, describing it as “a senseless measure†that causes “suffering†to Spaniards.
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=31354
Spain’s left wing party Izquierda Unida has slated the Spanish government’s decision to intensify checks at the border with Gibraltar, describing it as “a senseless measure†that causes “suffering†to Spaniards.
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=31354
#146










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very disappointing
#147
The media were allowed to witness and follow them.
They then went to Spain for "lunch" and then inspected the facilities on the Spanish side. The media were barred from accompanying them.
In the days before the inspection Spain cleaned up their side of the frontier. Most notably the huge pile of confiscated bicycles along with motorbikes and cars were removed.
Plus the following from elsewhere, sorry no link:-
Everything will become clear when the long awaited report by the EU Inspectors is published, if ever, remember Spain advised the President when they could visit and to make sure of a favourable outcome bestowed on him the Carlos v prize, was this a bribe, surely not from a country bent on defending democratic criteria and then violating every law and/or convention
#148
However, Mr Fox did divulge that the European Commission are uncomfortable with the situation two of its member countries are in. He said: “Certainly the European Commission finds this a very awkward issue to deal with, they don’t like being caught between two of the big member states; the United Kingdom on one hand and Spain on the other.â€
“You can tell they feel really uncomfortable. It is an issue that they would rather not have to deal with.â€
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=31366
“You can tell they feel really uncomfortable. It is an issue that they would rather not have to deal with.â€
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=31366
#149
Guardia Civil and Royal Navy collide at sea
http://gbc.gi/news/2693/guardia-civi...collide-at-sea
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=31375
http://gbc.gi/news/2693/guardia-civi...collide-at-sea
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=31375
Last edited by Fredbargate; Oct 30th 2013 at 10:23 pm. Reason: 2nd link added
#150
Navy & Guardia Civil pointed guns at each other in Wednesday's incident
http://gbc.gi/news/2697/navy-&-guard...y%27s-incident
http://gbc.gi/news/2697/navy-&-guard...y%27s-incident



