Gibraltar
Jul 22nd 2014, 9:14 am
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Re: Gibraltar
Parliament should pass motion calling on UK to claim 12 Miles of BGTW
By Leo Olivero
Not for the first time, and certainly it won’t be the last, the question of sovereignty, jurisdiction and control over the waters around Gibraltar caused another serious diplomatic altercation between the UK and the Spanish Government, as was the case over the weekend!
About Time UK Claimed The Full 12 Miles of BGTW!
The issue of BGTW and the 12-mile limit extension on the east side has reared its head again. One thing is for sure; it simply cannot be brushed under the carpet again until the next incident occurs?
Full article:-
http://www.panorama.gi/localnews/hea...12154&offset=0
By Leo Olivero
Not for the first time, and certainly it won’t be the last, the question of sovereignty, jurisdiction and control over the waters around Gibraltar caused another serious diplomatic altercation between the UK and the Spanish Government, as was the case over the weekend!
About Time UK Claimed The Full 12 Miles of BGTW!
The issue of BGTW and the 12-mile limit extension on the east side has reared its head again. One thing is for sure; it simply cannot be brushed under the carpet again until the next incident occurs?
Full article:-
http://www.panorama.gi/localnews/hea...12154&offset=0
Jul 22nd 2014, 9:44 am
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Re: Gibraltar
1 mile, 3 miles or 12 miles do you think that it would actually make any difference to how Spain feels about the disputed waters.??
Jul 22nd 2014, 11:43 am
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Re: Gibraltar
Only the bit labelled 'High Seas' would be included.
Jul 22nd 2014, 11:59 am
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No. And TBH the difference between a 3 mile and a 12 mile limit for Gibraltar isn't really significant.
http://www.gibnet.com/fish/waters.gif
Only the bit labelled 'High Seas' would be included.
http://www.gibnet.com/fish/waters.gif
Only the bit labelled 'High Seas' would be included.
See post 1613 :- http://britishexpats.com/forum/plaza.../#post11339259
Jul 22nd 2014, 6:58 pm
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Re: Gibraltar
Frontier car park in La Linea closed
Date: 22 July 2014 at 07:54
The car park on the Spanish side of the frontier has been closed down today.
The Parking Solidario, run by a group of unemployed, on the wasteland by the loop into Gibraltar, is used daily by hundreds of cross-frontier workers.
There were angry scenes this morning when car park attendants arrived at six to find the parking closed to give way to works on a multi-storey car park.
The land does not belong to La Linea but to the Autoridad Portuaria of Algeciras, which has had plans to build a multi-storey car park on the plot of land by the frontier for the past three years.
This morning they moved in before the cross-frontier workers had started their day.
The Guardia Civil was conspicuous by its absence and it fell on the police to control the area and calm tempers.
There were angry scenes as the car park attendants found they’d been locked out and cross-frontier workers were unable to park. This also led to traffic jams and delays.
Against this backdrop, cars which had been left overnight were towed away.
The parking has proved invaluable to those wanting to walk into Gibraltar. Run by a group of unemployed, it grew from their looking after a few cars to providing an essential service for hundreds who could park all day for a mere 2 Euros. The effects are therefore going to be twofold, commuters will have to make alternative arrangements but the La Linea Ayuntamiento will now also be faced with further unemployment from a number of families who for the past few years had found a way to earn their living.
GBC | Gibraltar Broadcasting Corporation
Date: 22 July 2014 at 07:54
The car park on the Spanish side of the frontier has been closed down today.
The Parking Solidario, run by a group of unemployed, on the wasteland by the loop into Gibraltar, is used daily by hundreds of cross-frontier workers.
There were angry scenes this morning when car park attendants arrived at six to find the parking closed to give way to works on a multi-storey car park.
The land does not belong to La Linea but to the Autoridad Portuaria of Algeciras, which has had plans to build a multi-storey car park on the plot of land by the frontier for the past three years.
This morning they moved in before the cross-frontier workers had started their day.
The Guardia Civil was conspicuous by its absence and it fell on the police to control the area and calm tempers.
There were angry scenes as the car park attendants found they’d been locked out and cross-frontier workers were unable to park. This also led to traffic jams and delays.
Against this backdrop, cars which had been left overnight were towed away.
The parking has proved invaluable to those wanting to walk into Gibraltar. Run by a group of unemployed, it grew from their looking after a few cars to providing an essential service for hundreds who could park all day for a mere 2 Euros. The effects are therefore going to be twofold, commuters will have to make alternative arrangements but the La Linea Ayuntamiento will now also be faced with further unemployment from a number of families who for the past few years had found a way to earn their living.
GBC | Gibraltar Broadcasting Corporation
Jul 22nd 2014, 9:31 pm
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Re: Gibraltar
Great shame - especially for the unemployed people of La Linea.
But inevitable.
But inevitable.
Jul 23rd 2014, 7:11 am
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Re: Gibraltar
Do the jobs created by the building of the car park and later those employed in running it maintanence etc not count ??
Jul 23rd 2014, 9:08 am
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Re: Gibraltar
Foreign affairs writer urges new approach by Spain
William Chislett, one of the participants in last year’s Gibraltar Literary Festival who is an expert in foreign affairs based in Madrid has written in a person capacity to the Financial Times. Mr Chislett suggests Spain should woo Gibraltar rather
than continue with its aggressive campaign.
The letter reads:
“A year ago this week the Spanish government imposed stringent controls at the border with Gibraltar, the territory ceded to Britain under the Treaty of Utrecht of 1713. The checks, ostensibly a crackdown on tobacco smuggling (cigarettes are much cheaper in Gibraltar), came after the Rock’s government dumped 70 concrete blocks in disputed waters in order to create an artificial reef and regenerate fish stocks.
The controls are still in force and produce, at times, long and arbitrary queues of cars and pedestrians. Coupled with the government’s closing down of the Trilateral Forum of Dialogue, established in 2004, in which the UK, Spain and Gibraltar agreed to discuss all matters of mutual interest except for sovereignty, the controls have done nothing to further Madrid’s claim to the territory. The more aggressive policy has created an absolute absence of dialogue and a siege mentality among Gibraltarians reminiscent of that when the Franco regime closed the border in 1969 (reopened in 1982).
Fabian Picardo, Gibraltar’s chief minister, was in Madrid this month and met with all of Spain’s political parties with the notable exception of the ruling Popular party, which gave him a wide berth.
The PP could do with following the advice given by the Duke of Edinburgh to former King Juan Carlos in 1977. According to a declassified US Department of State document, the Duke told Juan Carlos that ‘when one wished to gain the hand of an attractive lady, one should woo her with flowers and the like. And if Spain wished to have the situation in Gibraltar evolve more to its liking, it should begin to woo the Gibraltarians.’ It is never too late.”
Gibraltar Chronicle - The Independent Daily First Published 1801
William Chislett, one of the participants in last year’s Gibraltar Literary Festival who is an expert in foreign affairs based in Madrid has written in a person capacity to the Financial Times. Mr Chislett suggests Spain should woo Gibraltar rather
than continue with its aggressive campaign.
The letter reads:
“A year ago this week the Spanish government imposed stringent controls at the border with Gibraltar, the territory ceded to Britain under the Treaty of Utrecht of 1713. The checks, ostensibly a crackdown on tobacco smuggling (cigarettes are much cheaper in Gibraltar), came after the Rock’s government dumped 70 concrete blocks in disputed waters in order to create an artificial reef and regenerate fish stocks.
The controls are still in force and produce, at times, long and arbitrary queues of cars and pedestrians. Coupled with the government’s closing down of the Trilateral Forum of Dialogue, established in 2004, in which the UK, Spain and Gibraltar agreed to discuss all matters of mutual interest except for sovereignty, the controls have done nothing to further Madrid’s claim to the territory. The more aggressive policy has created an absolute absence of dialogue and a siege mentality among Gibraltarians reminiscent of that when the Franco regime closed the border in 1969 (reopened in 1982).
Fabian Picardo, Gibraltar’s chief minister, was in Madrid this month and met with all of Spain’s political parties with the notable exception of the ruling Popular party, which gave him a wide berth.
The PP could do with following the advice given by the Duke of Edinburgh to former King Juan Carlos in 1977. According to a declassified US Department of State document, the Duke told Juan Carlos that ‘when one wished to gain the hand of an attractive lady, one should woo her with flowers and the like. And if Spain wished to have the situation in Gibraltar evolve more to its liking, it should begin to woo the Gibraltarians.’ It is never too late.”
Gibraltar Chronicle - The Independent Daily First Published 1801
Jul 23rd 2014, 7:20 pm
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Re: Gibraltar
ex-PSOE politicians denounce PP policy on Gibraltar
Date: 23 July 2014
Three Spanish socialist ex-Parliamentarians who were very prominent at the time the Tripartite Forum for Dialogue was devised have denounced the policy of the present Partido Popular government on Gibraltar. In a joint statement José Carracao, Salvador de la Encina and Rafael Román single out Foreign Minister José Manuel García Margallo and Algeciras Mayor José Ignacio Landaluce for the constant and deceitful smokescreen the PP deploys every day with regard to Gibraltar. They accuse them of making hostages of residents on both sides of the frontier.
The veteran PSOE politicians say the present crisis in relations was both avoidable and unnecessary, and they urge a return to dialogue on co-operation, leaving questions of sovereignty to one side. They also ask that the Gibraltar Government make gestures of good will to the people of the Campo Area.
GBC | Gibraltar Broadcasting Corporation
Exparlamentarios socialistas urgen a España, Reino Unido y el Peñón de Gibraltar a "profundizar en la cooperación"
23.07.14 | 11:13h. EUROPA PRESS | CÁDIZ
Los exparlamentarios gaditanos del PSOE José Carracao, Salvador de la Encina y Rafael Román han criticado la política del Gobierno del PP en relación con Gibraltar, mostrando su "inquietud" por la "incesante escalada de incidentes en la zona". Por ello, consideran "urgentemente necesario" que los grupos de trabajo específicos de España, Reino Unido y Gibraltar "profundicen en la cooperación en todos los asuntos que no afectan a la soberanía".
En un comunicado conjunto remitido a Europa Press, los socialistas censuran la "constante y tramposa cortina de humo que hacen cada día el PP, el ministro José Manuel García Margallo y el alcalde y diputado José Ignacio Landaluce" con el tema de Gibraltar, "olvidando a los ciudadanos españoles de la comarca del Campo de Gibraltar que pagan, junto con los gibraltareños, la irresponsabilidad de su política".
Exparlamentarios socialistas urgen a España, Reino Unido y el Peñón de Gibraltar a "profundizar en la cooperación" - Noticias Nacional - INFORMATIVOS
Date: 23 July 2014
Three Spanish socialist ex-Parliamentarians who were very prominent at the time the Tripartite Forum for Dialogue was devised have denounced the policy of the present Partido Popular government on Gibraltar. In a joint statement José Carracao, Salvador de la Encina and Rafael Román single out Foreign Minister José Manuel García Margallo and Algeciras Mayor José Ignacio Landaluce for the constant and deceitful smokescreen the PP deploys every day with regard to Gibraltar. They accuse them of making hostages of residents on both sides of the frontier.
The veteran PSOE politicians say the present crisis in relations was both avoidable and unnecessary, and they urge a return to dialogue on co-operation, leaving questions of sovereignty to one side. They also ask that the Gibraltar Government make gestures of good will to the people of the Campo Area.
GBC | Gibraltar Broadcasting Corporation
Exparlamentarios socialistas urgen a España, Reino Unido y el Peñón de Gibraltar a "profundizar en la cooperación"
23.07.14 | 11:13h. EUROPA PRESS | CÁDIZ
Los exparlamentarios gaditanos del PSOE José Carracao, Salvador de la Encina y Rafael Román han criticado la política del Gobierno del PP en relación con Gibraltar, mostrando su "inquietud" por la "incesante escalada de incidentes en la zona". Por ello, consideran "urgentemente necesario" que los grupos de trabajo específicos de España, Reino Unido y Gibraltar "profundicen en la cooperación en todos los asuntos que no afectan a la soberanía".
En un comunicado conjunto remitido a Europa Press, los socialistas censuran la "constante y tramposa cortina de humo que hacen cada día el PP, el ministro José Manuel García Margallo y el alcalde y diputado José Ignacio Landaluce" con el tema de Gibraltar, "olvidando a los ciudadanos españoles de la comarca del Campo de Gibraltar que pagan, junto con los gibraltareños, la irresponsabilidad de su política".
Exparlamentarios socialistas urgen a España, Reino Unido y el Peñón de Gibraltar a "profundizar en la cooperación" - Noticias Nacional - INFORMATIVOS
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Jul 24th 2014, 7:42 am
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Re: Gibraltar
Yes - it might end up being positive overall. But you've got to feel for the guys who have been running the 'dust bowl' for years - stopped with no warning.
Jul 24th 2014, 9:33 pm
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Re: Gibraltar
Public breaking of the Ramadan fast - for all Gibraltarians
Jul 25th 2014, 8:39 am
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Gibraltar ofrece su colaboración para la extinción del incendio de Algeciras y traslada su solidaridad
Gibraltar ofrece su colaboración para la extinción del incendio de Algeciras y traslada su solidaridad
Chief Minister Offers Gibraltar Assistance To Algeciras Mayor To Deal With Fire
Jul 25 - Chief Minister Offers Gibraltar Assistance To Algeciras Mayor To Deal With Fire
Gibraltar ofrece su colaboración para la extinción del incendio de Algeciras y traslada su solidaridad
Chief Minister Offers Gibraltar Assistance To Algeciras Mayor To Deal With Fire
Jul 25 - Chief Minister Offers Gibraltar Assistance To Algeciras Mayor To Deal With Fire
Jul 25th 2014, 11:45 am
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Re: Gibraltar
No breach of EU environmental law in Gibraltar, says Brussels
Date: 25 July 2014 at 12:52
The European Commission's Directorate-General on Environment has ruled against Spain, finding Gibraltar has not breached EU law in its bunkering activities, the Eastside project or in creating the Artificial Reef off the runway.
The Gibraltar Government has welcomed the EU's decision, which comes after Spain made complaints to Brussels last summer.
GBC | Gibraltar Broadcasting Corporation
I doubt whether any Spanish newspaper will publish the above and retract their original over hyped accusations
Neither will any of the Brit haters on this forum.
Date: 25 July 2014 at 12:52
The European Commission's Directorate-General on Environment has ruled against Spain, finding Gibraltar has not breached EU law in its bunkering activities, the Eastside project or in creating the Artificial Reef off the runway.
The Gibraltar Government has welcomed the EU's decision, which comes after Spain made complaints to Brussels last summer.
GBC | Gibraltar Broadcasting Corporation
I doubt whether any Spanish newspaper will publish the above and retract their original over hyped accusations
Neither will any of the Brit haters on this forum.
Jul 25th 2014, 12:07 pm
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Re: Gibraltar
I love the British , I di not realise that Gibraltar was part of the United Kingdom.
When did that happen ????
When did that happen ????
Jul 26th 2014, 6:43 am
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Re: Gibraltar
I'm English and I like Gib, shame it's difficult to go there now.................Thankful for Iceland/Fuengirola
At least some cherished English products can be gotten there in the sun baked badlands of Andalusia.
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At least some cherished English products can be gotten there in the sun baked badlands of Andalusia.
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