Yorkshire Scratcher

Yet another example of the way Fadesa do business.

The latest at Rago 1 is that Fadesa are planning to start work on the remedial work to the externals after easter. When I met with Fadesa's commercial director in London kast year he promised that he would send me the drawings of the proposed scheme prior to the work starting. despite requests no drawings have been received. When I have asked Vanessa and others for the drawings I am told that they are not available.....strange that they are to start work in a little under 2 weeks time without drawings. I am concerned that we are just being fobbed off and lied to.

I am sorry to be a pessamistic....but from an objective point of viewand all things considered Fadesa are either just incompetant or there is a more serious problem.

The slow progress at CE commercial centre, the hotels, the lack of community charges and the rago 1 problems may all have their roots in Fadesa's cash position.

I have said on more than one occassion that all of Fadesa's customers with problems on Rago 1 should join together; perhaps this should extend to CE. Any thoughts?

Trying to deal with these matters as customers directly is not working and it is not working by attempting to deal with these things at a local level.

Palmera

I agree Carol. There are some lovely restaurants in El Rocio. There is one that does beef medallions in a sauce to die for, and huge battered prawns. And the bar on the El Rocio side of the road does a lovely menu del dia for €8.50...and the best bit is, its a set menu, so you have what you´re given! Is great to have surprises and have never had a bad one yet!

MEL & JOHN

JDR

Thanks for that info

Cheers to free beer I say !!

Mel

jdr

If you auction enough properties you lot could become the new FADESA owners. ;-))

EsuriJohn

Both my favorites give us the name.

EsuriJohn

There is one word missing from jdrs response SUBJECT to and that is why if Fadesa have the majority they can vote down a motion to take action against them. I hope your manazana has more others than Fadesa and you can get them to pay up it would transform your finances.

I must say they were more than fair with us although we signed for the plot in Feb 2007 they had paid the whole of the council tax that became due in the January but was not payable until June.

"If any of the members fail to pay the community fees, the President or the Administrator may claim the debt, SUBJECT to previous authorisation of the community members, in the Court of First Instance from the city where the block of flats is located, and even have the property sold at auction to recover unpaid charges."

jackytoo

I don't think Fadesa are allowed to vote if they haven't paid their community fees.

jdr

A valid point, you can`t break one rule and expect to use another.

JGB

""quote : I must say they were more than fair with us although we signed for the plot in Feb 2007 they had paid the whole of the council tax that became due in the January but was not payable until June""

Fadesa did you no favour by paying the council tax.
Even if you had completed on January 2nd 2007 - they are responsible for the council tax for the entire year of 2007.
This is the law and not a favour.
James

JGB

ADA are being paid by you and your community to speak to Fadesa, and other non payers, regarding payment. There are other communities on CE with different administration companies who have regular payments from Fadesa.
Is the problem Fadesa or is the problem ADA's incompetence and a reason to put your charges up.
Furthermore, if ADA spent your money wisely on necessary services rather than on benches, umbrellas, office expenses and paper, meeting expenses and so on, maybe there wouldn't be such a cash flow problem.
Have you asked ADA to explain the reasons for the cash flow problems aside from non payments by owners.
As a property owner you have a right to know exactly what your money is being spent on.

James

EsuriJohn

I understand it is usual to apportion the tax although the law is framed as you quote it.

JGB

You are correct, it is an insult. ADA and Fadesa have been insulting owners on CE since the first communities were established between Fadesa and AEA; when Fadesa were 100% owners.
AEA wrote themselves into the Actas (the official minutes) with a two year term, when they should only have had one. They decided the set up charge would be €100, when other developments charge €50-€60. They called the initial “community” meetings without advising newly completed owners resulting in presidents being selected out of hats. They set up initial charges without any thought for the real needs of the community. AEA left CE at the beginning of 2007; ADA took over – the same staff but an entirely different company.
Fadesa no longer have the majority on most of the original communities; is it not about time property owners on CE took responsibility for their own communities.
Start by asking a lot of in depth questions of the company who is spending your money. Is the cash flow problem completely due to non payers; what exactly has your money been spent on – do you know ?
The President of your community is legally responsible for expenditure which has not been approved by the majority of owners, except in the case of an emergency.

There are a lot of other administration companies in and around Ayamonte and Huelva who are professional and easy to deal with; plus they realize that they work for you, not the other way round.
You as owners have rights to call a meetings to select a new administration company who will service the needs of your community. Who will face Fadesa directly and will look after the interests of YOU, the owners.

Do you know the only legal requirement of a community is the President, all other positions are decided by the owners. And you have rights to decide how and on what your money is spent.
James

Palmera

you know, its one of those we´ve been to so often, we just go in ...and dont even know the name!! We go past next week, so will stop by and make a note of it (good excuse for another meal,lol)...will keep you posted....

EsuriJohn

Thanks

betris

Then you would be better seeking legal advise as you well may have signed for a permanent management company to run things in the small print of your puchase contract.that is one way they slott in a no get out clause.