British standards ???
Oct 11th 2013, 8:43 am
#76
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Re: British standards ???
Education not isolation and predjudice is the way to reduce the problems with in those communities that practise traditions which we find are disgusting.
Any reduction in numbers is a good thing but we should not lose sight of the wider issues within the all of UK society.
To focus on the problems of one group is to ignore the much higher levels of general abuse that exist.
Any abuse inflicted on children is "against nature " not just that carried out in
non white immigrant communities.
Any reduction in numbers is a good thing but we should not lose sight of the wider issues within the all of UK society.
To focus on the problems of one group is to ignore the much higher levels of general abuse that exist.
Any abuse inflicted on children is "against nature " not just that carried out in
non white immigrant communities.
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Oct 11th 2013, 8:58 am
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Re: British standards ???
American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ.
Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."
Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm
Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."
Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm
Oct 11th 2013, 9:05 am
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Re: British standards ???
Does it matter, did Bhudda exist, Hindus and other numerous religions believe in ancient gods.
Was it marx or Lenin who said that Religion is the opiate of the masses ?
If believng in fairies at the bottom of the garden gives someone comfort and leads them to live a better life , so be it.
Was it marx or Lenin who said that Religion is the opiate of the masses ?
If believng in fairies at the bottom of the garden gives someone comfort and leads them to live a better life , so be it.
Oct 11th 2013, 9:13 am
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Re: British standards ???
Does it matter, did Bhudda exist, Hindus and other numerous religions believe in ancient gods.
Was it marx or Lenin who said that Religion is the opiate of the masses ?
If believng in fairies at the bottom of the garden gives someone comfort and leads them to live a better life , so be it.
Was it marx or Lenin who said that Religion is the opiate of the masses ?
If believng in fairies at the bottom of the garden gives someone comfort and leads them to live a better life , so be it.
Oct 11th 2013, 9:23 am
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Re: British standards ???
American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ.
Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."
Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm
Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."
Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm
but the all conquering Muslim faith sees Jesus as a prophet in the same way as Abraham, so he must have existed.
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Oct 11th 2013, 9:47 am
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Re: British standards ???
Domino I may have missed something in the news.
What countries have been conquered by followers of Islam in the last 500 years.
It was not muslims who killed tens of thousands and operated rape camps in Serbia and Bosnia was it.
The apalling situation in the world today that it is muslims killing each other in Iraq, Egypt, Afgahnistan.Somalia, Syria and across much of north and west africa.
It is the overspill from these conflicts that are the cause of the refugee problem that causes its own problems in western Europe and the US.
What countries have been conquered by followers of Islam in the last 500 years.
It was not muslims who killed tens of thousands and operated rape camps in Serbia and Bosnia was it.
The apalling situation in the world today that it is muslims killing each other in Iraq, Egypt, Afgahnistan.Somalia, Syria and across much of north and west africa.
It is the overspill from these conflicts that are the cause of the refugee problem that causes its own problems in western Europe and the US.
Oct 11th 2013, 9:49 am
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Re: British standards ???
Domino, He has a point though.
Religion has always been used to control the masses. All that crap about the meek inheriting the earth, poor man can pass through the eye of a needle easier than a rich man. Getting your rewards in heaven etc. The we have the Jihadists being promised loads of virgins...where did that one come from
Do they never thing how improbable it is.
I had a thought when part of the funeral of the Welsh girl, April Jones was on TV. One women priest said "God is watching over you"...where was he when she was being brutally raped and mudered
Religion has always been used to control the masses. All that crap about the meek inheriting the earth, poor man can pass through the eye of a needle easier than a rich man. Getting your rewards in heaven etc. The we have the Jihadists being promised loads of virgins...where did that one come from Do they never thing how improbable it is.I had a thought when part of the funeral of the Welsh girl, April Jones was on TV. One women priest said "God is watching over you"...where was he when she was being brutally raped and mudered
Oct 11th 2013, 10:01 am
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Re: British standards ???
In old Norse religions they were promised valhalla where warriors had their every desire attended to. One religion takes what it sees as the good bits from another , hence the virgins for Jihadists.
Stoning women and those taken in adutery, chopping the hands off thieves etc was taken from the Jewish religion which has more in common with Islam than you would think.
But you cannot blame religion for everything, The nazis hated the church almost as much as they did anyone else who was not an arian german.
Stoning women and those taken in adutery, chopping the hands off thieves etc was taken from the Jewish religion which has more in common with Islam than you would think.
But you cannot blame religion for everything, The nazis hated the church almost as much as they did anyone else who was not an arian german.
Oct 11th 2013, 1:36 pm
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Re: British standards ???
In old Norse religions they were promised valhalla where warriors had their every desire attended to. One religion takes what it sees as the good bits from another , hence the virgins for Jihadists.
Stoning women and those taken in adutery, chopping the hands off thieves etc was taken from the Jewish religion which has more in common with Islam than you would think.
But you cannot blame religion for everything, The nazis hated the church almost as much as they did anyone else who was not an arian german.
Stoning women and those taken in adutery, chopping the hands off thieves etc was taken from the Jewish religion which has more in common with Islam than you would think.
But you cannot blame religion for everything, The nazis hated the church almost as much as they did anyone else who was not an arian german.
I believe no one has actually answered the question - "who pays the ferryman?" who carries the dead warriors across the Styxx.
Oct 11th 2013, 1:51 pm
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Re: British standards ???
Charon the boatman ?
Oct 11th 2013, 3:21 pm
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Re: British standards ???
In old Norse religions they were promised valhalla where warriors had their every desire attended to. One religion takes what it sees as the good bits from another , hence the virgins for Jihadists.
Stoning women and those taken in adutery, chopping the hands off thieves etc was taken from the Jewish religion which has more in common with Islam than you would think.
But you cannot blame religion for everything, The nazis hated the church almost as much as they did anyone else who was not an arian german.
Stoning women and those taken in adutery, chopping the hands off thieves etc was taken from the Jewish religion which has more in common with Islam than you would think.
But you cannot blame religion for everything, The nazis hated the church almost as much as they did anyone else who was not an arian german.
All yor banging on about what the catholics or vikings believed in the year dot is irrelevant.
Mentally handicapped people used to be put in the stocks and pelted with rotten fruit, but we have moved on, we burnt witches but we hve moved on.
I would like to hear you and AN(other) condem the "forced marriage in the UK" issue, without the smoke screen of what others religions did in the past.
Oct 11th 2013, 3:28 pm
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Me Me . late to the party as usual, posts have moved on since your last very erudite comment " next ".
Forced marriage is just one of the many evils carried out in the UK by all parts of society, just ask the parents of little April.
Forced marriage is just one of the many evils carried out in the UK by all parts of society, just ask the parents of little April.
Oct 11th 2013, 3:49 pm
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Some of us have a life away from BE, so are you saying that if we are out and away from the computer, then when we get around to reading the posts, we have no right to make a comment?
If that is the way, maybe you can show me where it states that in the rules of posting.
Just to clear matters up, especially for the posters that are not all day screen watching. I have made 56 more posts than you but have been a member for 4 and a half years longer, so instead of you criticizing me for late postings, maybe I should make a comment such as "GET A LIFE"
So you are still not condeming the forced marriages, and I think you have got a flamin cheek even mentioning the parents of April Jones in the same breath as the muslim parents who marry off their underage daughters against their will, and in many cases kill them to protect the "honour of the family.
April´s parents have lost a beloved child they are victims of a terrible crime, and to compare them to the scum that would rather see their daughters dead, so as not to lose face is disgusting.(in fact a new LOW on BE)
Oct 11th 2013, 4:08 pm
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Which part of forced marriages are evil do you NOT understand.
You seem to believe that the evils in the UK can be attributed more to one group in society than society itself.
Which is worse a girl who is forced into an unhappy marriage in a strange land or the deaths of children .
We have got to get our priorities right in the UK instead of just looking for someone to blame all the time.
You seem to believe that the evils in the UK can be attributed more to one group in society than society itself.
Which is worse a girl who is forced into an unhappy marriage in a strange land or the deaths of children .
We have got to get our priorities right in the UK instead of just looking for someone to blame all the time.
Oct 11th 2013, 4:21 pm
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So you are still not condeming the forced marriages, and I think you have got a flamin cheek even mentioning the parents of April Jones in the same breath as the muslim parents who marry off their underage daughters against their will, and in many cases kill them to protect the "honour of the family.
April´s parents have lost a beloved child they are victims of a terrible crime, and to compare them to the scum that would rather see their daughters dead, so as not to lose face is disgusting.(in fact a new LOW on BE)
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